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NASB | Revelation 4:1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven, and the first voice which I had heard, like the sound of a trumpet speaking with me, said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after these things." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven! And the first voice which I had heard, like the sound of a [war] trumpet speaking with me, said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after these things." |
Subject: After these things |
Bible Note: 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. The Solagroup material states: “The first chapter of Revelation is "the things you have seen." Revelation two and three cover "the things which are"; and Revelation four through twenty-one are "the things which shall take place after these things." The disproportionate attention given to the "things which shall take place after these things (Revelation 4-21)," suggests that the temporal outline of the book is not the key to its structure. This is particularly true given that the seven churches receive promises that are both first century and futuristic in nature. In other words, there is an overlap of "the things which are" and "things which shall take place after these things." This undermines any attempt to force a strict interpretation of Revelation 1:19 as the dogmatic outline of the book of Revelation.” My comment: I may describe my day, in saying, “I got out of bed, showered, and made lunch. Now I am driving to work. When I get there, I will check my email, write orders, make phone calls, write letters, have meetings, go to lunch, etc.” I have included much more detail about what comes after I arrive at work, however, this is no wise affects the chronology of what I am saying. To apply the same logic as the solagroup, we would have to say that since I gave more detail about my day at work, that must mean that while these meetings and such are happening, I am still driving to work. What? Simply because a portion of scripture contains more information than another portion in no wise gives us a reason to ignore the chronological indicators given plainly in the text. Does this sound like a sound method of interpreting scripture? “This passage says more than that passage”??? The Outline of the Book of the Revelation in 1:19: “Write what things you saw, and what things are, and what things are about to occur after these things (meta tauta).” This describes sequential narrative, one thing being before another. Rev 4:1 “After these things (meta tauta) I saw. And behold, a door being opened in Heaven! And I heard the first voice as a trumpet speaking with me, saying, Come up here, and I will show you what needs to happen after these things (meta tauta).” To simplify what John is saying about his visions, “After these things I saw what must happen after these things” Again, he is describing a sequential narrative. The first words in Rev. 7:1 are “meta tauta”, or “after these things”. John describes the sealing of the 144,000 and the innumerable multitude appearing in heaven. In chapter 8, the seventh seal is opened, and seven angels are given trumpets, and begin to sound them. Seals, Trumpets, and Bowl happen in order. Any interpretation that overlaps or rearranges these is not supported by the text. The two witnesses come back to life 3 1/2 days after the middle of the 70th week, when antichrist is able to overcome the saints (the devil will never overcome the church!), after the the 5th trumpet is sounded. To say that the church is on the earth at this point is to say that the church will endure 5 months of torment by the demon "locusts" from the abyss. Does that sound right to you? The promises given to the church in these letters are in fact contemporary and futuristic, however that does not in and of itself mean that there is an overlap between the “things which are” (i.e. the things of the church), and that which happens after (i.e. after the things of the church). Promises given to the true church in the seven letters are pertaining to its earthly existance, until the time of the 70th week, and to its heavenly existance, but not to any time period involving the 70th week. “Jezebel” and her adulterers will be cast into “great tribulation”; this is not the true church. Loadicea will be “spat out”; this is not the true church. Philedelphia will be “kept from” the hour of testing which is coming to “try them that dwell upon the earth”; this is the true church. If you keep the children out of the test period at school, do you: A) Send them into the room, and not let anyone near them with a test? Or B) Not send them into the room? What is the plain, simple, and true meaning of these verses? The solagroup cannot allow a straightforward interpretation of Revelation, and the sequence of events that it gives, because that conflicts with their interpretations. |
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