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1 | Searching for the truth | Rev 1:1 | RCSCROLL | 79030 | ||
THE LAMB IS CHRIST JESUS, JOHN 1:29,36. THE BRIDE IS THE CHURCH, MARK 2:19-20. CHRIST IS OUR BRIDEGROOM HENCE WE ARE THE BRIDE. IN THE OLD TESTAMENT IT IS SAID THAT HE WILL DIVORCE HIS FIRST BRIDE ISRAEL.According to Jeremiah 31:31-32, God said he was “an husband” to Israel. In Jeremiah 3:8-10 and Isaiah 50:1, God states that he was married to Israel, and gave Israel a bill of divorcement, because Israel committed adultery. WE ARE CHRISTS BRIDE NOW, A SPIRITUAL HOUSE, THOSE WHO ARE CIRCUMSISED IN THE HEART, COLOS 2:11.WE NOW AWAIT THE MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB, OUR GROOM CHRIST.AND WE COULD SAY THAT WE ALREADY EAT WITH HIM AND HIM WITH US, AS WE HAVE OPENED THE DOOR, SPIRITUAL FOOD AND DRINK.. LOVE IN CHRIST JESUS RCSCROLL. |
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2 | Searching for the truth | Rev 1:1 | Timla6 | 79195 | ||
Hi RC Actually I am surprised to hear you refer to the church as the bride of Christ. Mark 2:19 states the "guests of the bridegroom(NIV), "sons of the bridechamber (ASV),(YLT)(DARBY) "children of the bridechamber (KJV) Just because the Bridegroom was to be taken away from them, does that make us the bride? I can find no verses in the KJV or any other translation that has words "Bride , Christ" in the same verse. But there are 14 instances where the term is used as a metaphor, such as, "as a bride adorneth [herself] with her jewels." Isa 61:10 (KJV) Rev 21:2 does suggest to us that The holy city will be the bride, "And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband." (another metaphor) There is however 4 verses in the KJV New Testament that have an exact phrase match to Body of Christ. Rom 7:4 1 Cor 10:16 1 Cor 12:27 Eph 4:12 and, if you would allow me to respectfully question you, could you please tell me how we can be the body of Christ as well as the bride? I am modestly troubled by this expression of the church being the bride. When a man gives a woman an engagement ring, does that make her a bride? Since scripture is telling us that we (the church) are the Body of Christ, I cannot understand a relationship outside of marriage where we are the body and simultaneously the bride. Thank you for your views, God Bless, Tim |
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3 | WHOS THE NEW BRIDE | Rev 1:1 | RCSCROLL | 79272 | ||
May I ask you to answer a few questions.yes or no. 1. Was the Lord ever Married, Metaphorically. 2. if so who was his Wife. 3. Did He ever Divorce Her. 4. Who would be His New espousel. betrothed. 5. According to Ephesians 6, is there a parrallel, between the Husband of a wife and Christ and His Church. 6. Is the New Jerusalem the Church. 7. Whos the Bride who made Herself ready. 8. Does the Marriage supper happen before or after the Marriage, if after then who will be the New Bride. Love in Christ RC, |
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4 | WHOS THE NEW BRIDE | Rev 1:1 | Timla6 | 79275 | ||
RC, thank you for your reply. 1, Yes, (Jer 3:14) 2,referring to the covenant (Lev 26:42) 3, Yes. (Jer 3:8) 4, (?) 5, Yes, (Eph. 5) 6, No 7, The Holy City 8, (?) In love with faith Tim |
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5 | WHOS THE NEW BRIDE | Rev 1:1 | RCSCROLL | 79326 | ||
Answer: RC, thank you for your reply. 1, Yes, (Jer 3:14) 2,referring to the covenant (Lev 26:42) 3, Yes. (Jer 3:8) 4, (?) 5, Yes, (Eph. 5) 6, No 7, The Holy City 8, (?) In love with faith Tim 2.and 4. IF If the old covenant was considered to be His wife Israel (Jerusalem).In whom He divorced. Then would you agree that the New covenant would indeed have to be His New Bride, but not yet His wife, until His throne is in the New Heavens and Earth. Jer3:16-19, 6. Are we the new covenant people?, which duplicates,and continues Abrahams covenant which was completely fullfilled to Israel, before She was cut off. I beleive that the New Jerusalem is in fact all the people of God old and New covenants combined. Remember the writer of Hebrews said that you have come to the Heavenly Jerusalem, Hebrews 12:22-23. And Jesus says in Rev 3:12, to whom overcomes He will write the Name of his Father and the name of His city the New Jerusaem, and His name aswell. The New Jerusalems foundation is made of the Apostles and Prophets Eph 2:20, Rev 21:14, and we the Church are built upon this foundation. Eph 2:21, 4:16, We are the 1Peter 2:5- Spiritual house, vs 6, we are the stones. We are the New Spiritual Jerusalem. When Christ comes with the souls of His Bride 1Thess 4:14, The New Jeusalem, Rev 6:9, Rev 20:4, I believe most assuredly that we are the sons and daughters of the Bride chamber, we are the Sons and daughters of God the Father, But we are going to be Christs New wife, hence we are His bride being formed now. Remember the wedding garment that we have recieved, cloaked in His perfection, we dont have a spot , blemish or wrinkle, we are His virgin. When He arrives and after the rapture, He will eat and drink again during the marriage supper of the Lamb, the supper happens in Jewish litrature after the Marriage has taken place, this would be when all the people of God, old and new covenants at the rapture takes place, this is when we become His wife.remember He said He will not eat or Drink again until He dose it in the Kingdom of God. When He arrives and makes a New Heaven and Earth then shall we be with Him, and become His wife. I beleive that when the New Jerusalem comes down from Heaven Rev 21: 2 this is exactly Who we are. A spiritual house.Answers Question 7. and 8. I am certainly not close minded, but beleive that this prooves the point. I thank You aswell for you correspondence.Love in Christ Jesus RCSCROLL |
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6 | WHOS THE NEW BRIDE | Rev 1:1 | Timla6 | 79465 | ||
RC Thank you for your kind response you obviously put much thought and effort into your posts. Thanks to Emmaus, for his doctrine, of a Catholic nature, which states in part, "by doing so they signified that all who eat the one broken bread, Christ, enter into communion with him and form but one body in him." My humble feelings on this, is we would be shortchanging ourselves by thinking we could be considered less than the body, -which a bride would be, someone else, to be joined at a future time... By definition would not a bride be apart from the body? Here is another extraction from Emmaus's post, please pardon the lack of context, "also provides key insights to help us see the Mass, not as a dead ritual, but as the earthly liturgy reflecting the heavenly liturgy, which comes to culmination in the marriage feast of the Lamb as described by St. John in the book of Revelation." The scriptural description follows here, Rev 19:7-9, 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed [are] they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. Here we have a description of the bride, how she appeared; in fine linen, clean and white, clothed in the robes of Christ’s righteousness. Therefore, the whole collective body of all those who partake of this feast is the bride; The Lamb’s wife, which are those who are called to partake of the eating and drinking into one body and blood, are not mere guests, but blend themselves as one into the betrothed party, the mystical body of Christ. Call me Berean-istic, but I choose not to interpret God's word according to my pre-conceived notions, or assumptions. When you say that the Old Covenant was His wife, then the New Covenant is indeed His bride, sorry, I do not follow this if-then logic. No one can choose God's bride except God. Again, I thank you both for your input. But as for me, I choose to remain in the body of Christ as is claimed by scripture and the bride will be one with the body on the Lord's day. Praise Him. Your eternal brother, Tim |
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