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1 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | RC Scrolls | 204537 | ||
If Revelation was written after 90AD, why is the Temple still standing in Chapter 11. When it was already destroyed in 70AD. And since it was destroyed in 70AD why dosent John mention that catastrohic event that ended all of the Jewish Religion of that day. Love in Christ Jesus. RC | ||||||
2 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | stjohn | 204538 | ||
R.C. In the verse above, and again below, John is told, explicitly by The Lord to: write in in a book what he sees: and nowhere in, The Revelation of Jesus Christ, is he given instructions to do otherwise! By not mentioning the events of 70 A.D. he is simply being obedient to the Lord. Shouldn't we do the same and not read into it, what is NOT there? Indeed there is a grave warning about this very thing contained in (Rev 22:18) that many expositors fail to head! Rev 1:11 saying, "Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea." It is very clear what John's instructions are! And remember: NONE of it is John's idea! Shalom John |
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3 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | RC Scrolls | 204576 | ||
Well as long as you know that all 7 Churches didnt exsist in 90 AD then thats just fine, in 63 AD three of them were destroyed by yes an earth quake. And believe it or not Laodocia wasnt rebuilt till 121 AD. In 90 AD John is the only Apostle left. So why write to the Churches and tell them who have tried the apostles and found them not to be, in that sense theyr are real Apostles around. Why why why. If John new all of them were dead. If your thoughts are dispensensationalists, There was never a domitian slaugtering of Christians He Hated everyone. Nero Killed Christians. You will find out soon enough that our wave will hit you soon, Even southern Baptists and many christian denominations are ashamed and have repented from there view of futurism. Within 10 to 20 yrs futureists will be known for what they thought was truth, and History will write about it as the time the Christians walked away from its true Eschatology which was adhered to for 2000 yrs yet most fell after that false doctrine of dispensationalism that was invented in 1830. Just try and find written evidence before 1800AD. they will not endure sound doctrine, they will be drowned by ever wind and wave of doctrine. Our evidence has written witnesses for 2 thousand yrs, Yours has 181 yrs. Christ is my witness, for we can prove our view with Scripture and you still have to wait until the future before you could prove your right. Mine is in the bible already. When todays Israel gos on and after the generations will be passed which oh we just passed 60 Yrs. Thats right you guys used to write that it would be in 25 yrs after 1948. When 1973 passed oh a Generation must be in 30 yrs.When 1978 passed oh it must be 40 yrs like the Bible says. Your Prophets have been date setting for yrs and always get proven wrong. It was a futureist and all the dispensationalists that said store you food sell out, run to the mountains dig in, it says that flee from Judea so we must be right again to flee to the mountains when YK happened. All along I told eveyone dont listen to the media or the sensational garbadge we will be just fine, cause I didnt listen , I studied it out. And what happened nothing just like the great dissapointment in the 1800 from which I will remind you that your doctrine comes from. Once again How can John measure a Temple in 90 AD or later that hasnt stood since 70 AD. However you can measure a Temple in the 60s AD when REV was wrote. You have been examined and are found wanting.You will see Tim LaHaye say Hes sorry. He already has to Time life mag. But Hes decided that He owes Tyndale house 4 more books, so instead of letting people know guess what He said its not my problem they can believe what they want, let them decide. History will write this down as a conspiracy against true Christian doctrine. Hopefully your not in your eighties yet and will see it come to pass. I am to old , but worked dilegently to prove dispensationalism wrong. You need to reopen your ears and listen to a Doctrine that has History of the Church behind it. Remeber Domitian didnt kill Christians. So the dating of REV could be wron, with a resounding yes its wrong. Now think about Johns Revelation in 63 AD when the 7 yr tready was made between Israel and Rome and after 3.5 yrs Rome broke the peace treaty and slaughtered Jews instead of just Christians. 1.1 million Jews died. The catapolts through Ice covered bolders at Jerusalem. about the wieght of a Talent Flavius Josephus wrote. Who was a Jewish Priest and never knew the book of REV. Nor did He ever Become a Christian. Nero wore Bear skins and claws on His hands and feet A lions head on His head and wings of an eagle on His back as He ripped apart your fellow Christians for not bowing down to Him. He killed them like that with His barehands. And His coins for Rome read , Nero Savior to the world. Read about it its in History, not the future. So have a good day . in Christ Jesus King of the New Jerusalem which is the Israel of God. Gal 6:16 |
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4 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | stjohn | 204578 | ||
R.C....Your post is very presumptuous. You have NO idea what my views on the timeframe Revelation are! Yet you accuse me of many things! What I do know though, from reading it, is that John is being given a vision, so he does NOT measure a literal temple: too, he was on the isle of Patmos, nowhere near Jerusalem, which coincides with the fact, that it was a vision. I know I know there is much more to it. Your theory may have some merit, but it leaks! That is just one example of your many erroneous assumptions, I also think you may have a convoluted view of history. If you were not so grounded in your presuppositions perhaps you would check further, and you might find that there were dispensational views being taught many centuries before the 19th century. I am not a dispensationalist, by the way. And I don't have a denomination, but if I had to chose, I'd have to say, I'm a Baptist. And you have a good day too, R.C.! By the way R.C. If you need the last word you may have it, but I have much better things to do then argue about eschatology. Gal 6:14 Just my two cents. Shalom and God bless John |
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5 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | RC Scrolls | 204601 | ||
Then give all the dispensationalists before 1800. I have spent yrs and yrs on study, 30 yrs. Assumptive is redicoulous. There are witnesses to my View through out history Hundreds as I said to 63AD. Why would God tell John to measure the Temple if its a spiritual Temple. Measuring is literal and physical. Dispensational views on Futureism Dont exist. As I said Why would God have John write to 7 Churches when a few of them didnt existwhen you think He wrote it 90AD. In 63AD before the quake all of them exsited. Why did God tell Daniel to SEal up His Book which was only a few centuries to go. And tell John to not seal His up when so far theres been 2 thousand yrs. All the land promises had and are complete for Israel Lettering in Bold is done by RC Josh 23:14-15 (KJV) 14 And, behold, this day I am going the way of all the earth: and ye know in all your hearts and in all your souls, that not one thing hath failed of all the good things which the LORD your God spake concerning you; all are come to pass unto you, and not one thing hath failed thereof. 15 Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you. Jer 3:6-8 (KJV) God speaking 6 The LORD said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot. 7 And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it. 8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also. God the Father has Divorced Israel Jer 33:23-24 (KJV) 23 Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying, 24 Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them. Now the Prince of Peace shall get Married God the Son, and the spiritual Israel (Christians) are a Holy Nation 1 Peter 2:9-10 (KJV) 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. Gal 6:15-18 (KJV) 15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. 16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. We are the Israel of God, Faithful from all Generations. 2 Cor 1:20 (KJV) 20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us. When the bible Talks about all Israel shall be saved its Talking about the Spiritual Israel even from the Older Testament. Abraham, Moses David Etc. What I found on Futuristic views before are generally terrible examples. For instance one was supposed to be a Dispensationalist because He was a premillenillist. Didnt qualify. Only five out of 2000 yrs of History only one probably could be. But Back that up with virtually hundreds of witnesses for the view I believe. You can stay where you are But by the time your kids grow up, if there toddlers now. Your view wont be getting taught anymore. Since I do know that you are atleast a futurist , that much I know. As Stated Nero and Rome Were the beast. Jerusalem was the harlot called Babylon, just read EZE 16. If you can measure a spiritual Temple then tell me how. The Israel of today has one thing in common with Israel of yesteryear. The name only. And to be a futurist is Anti Simetic , Because all of you are waiting for Israel to get Slaughtered in the great battle of armageddon. And you want to hasten the Lord. I would prefer to Pray for all people to come to Christ. Ehp Chapter 2, How can you think they will come back when Eph says we are including them, as one in Christ Love yah RC Love in Christ Jesus RC You havent studied History. give me evidence of all these guys I missed. |
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