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1 | 1st John 3:4-9 Discussion on sin. | 1 John 3:9 | Morant61 | 126299 | ||
Greetings TheoMinor! I wish we could post Greek letters onto the forum! :-( Allow me to just briefly make a few comments and observations on some of the pertinent verses. 1 John 3:4: There is one inaccuracy concerning this verse. 'Poiwn' is not an imperative verb. It is a Present, Active, Participle, Masc, Nominative, Singular. You are correct about the 2nd occurance of 'poiew'. It is a Present, Active, Indicative, 3rd Person, Singular verb. However, the present doesn't necessarily mean 'now'. There are cases where the present tense can be used of either past or future action. The primary emphasis of tenses in Greek is the 'kind' of action, not the 'time' of action. Thus, 'present' stresses continuous action or serial action as opposed to point in time action. 1 John 3:6: The same thing is true of 'menon'. It is not an aorist, imperative, but a present, active, participle. In fact, all of the verbs you have indentified as aorist, imperatives are actually present, active, participles. Let me get back to the context a bit later. I just got home from work and need to get to bed! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | 1st John 3:4-9 Discussion on sin. | 1 John 3:9 | Theo-Minor | 126318 | ||
I'm definitely a novice at Greek study. I'm working on it, but I'm English-speaking. *laugh* See my other posts, though, regarding the implications of present tense. I'm not thick-headed, but I think I'm making a reasonable point. Theo-Minor |
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3 | 1st John 3:4-9 Discussion on sin. | 1 John 3:9 | Morant61 | 126324 | ||
Greetings Theo-Minor! Keep at it! Greek study can be very rewarding. Can you give me the post # for your other point? The weekend is a very busy time for me. :-) Just allow me to say that there is merit to the idea that many expouse that 1 John is speaking of impossibility of habitiual sin in the life of a believer. The present tense does indicate continous or serial action, while the aorist would indicate punctiliar or point of time action. Thus, 1 John is not saying that a believer cannot commit an act of sin, but that a believer cannot continously live in sin, if he is born of God. p.s. - Might I recommend (if you don't already have it), Dana and Mantey's, 'A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament'. It is short enough to be readable, but lengthy enough to be useful. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | 1st John 3:4-9 Discussion on sin. | 1 John 3:9 | Theo-Minor | 126327 | ||
The original question post was #126296 kalos answered in posts: 126297, 126300, and 126301. Then I responded to him in posts: 126315 and 126317. I don't know what happened with the thread, but my question, asked only once, was also posted as 126298. You responded with post: 126299. I responded with posts: 126318 and 126323. You responded with post: 126324. Again, I don't know why the thread is divided, but this is the series of posts, pretty much in order of occurrence. Theo-Minor P.S. I'm currently going through "The Oxford Grammar of Classical Greek." I will get a copy of the other once I've absorbed this one to the best of my ability. It's slow going, but it has really helped me learn to recognize the words. It's structure more than anything else that was the pain in my rear side (most particularly reconciling myself to "Sequence of tenses and moods" That got confusing at first, but I'm getting a decent grasp, I think.). |
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5 | 1st John 3:4-9 Discussion on sin. | 1 John 3:9 | Morant61 | 126337 | ||
Greetings Theo-Minor! I'll check the posts out on Monday! The only problem you would have with the Oxford Grammar is that Biblical, or Koine Greek, is quite different than Classical Greek. Koine Greek is not nearly as complicated either! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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6 | 1st John 3:4-9 Discussion on sin. | 1 John 3:9 | Theo-Minor | 126341 | ||
Perhaps this is the reason for some of the discrepencies. I'll get a copy of the other. I look forward to seeing some new info. :o) Theo-Minor |
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