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1 | Is today the only day of salvation for a | 2 Pet 3:1 | Arnie | 41151 | ||
I don't think God is a failure, why can't there be another day of salvation? God is just and merciful, I don't think it is either just or merciful to send billions of people who have never been given a chance to know the truth to eternal damnation. Given the fact of millions of abortions, those unborn certainly don't deserve eternal damnation. There are to many verses in the Bible that talk about a just and merciful God to believe that could happen. | ||||||
2 | Is today the only day of salvation for a | 2 Pet 3:1 | Reformer Joe | 41212 | ||
Well, that may be true, Arnie. However, you are switching arguments. I thought we were talking about terrorist bombers, not fetuses who do not have cognitive awareness. In theory there COULD be another opportunity for death for salvation, but God has made it pretty clear in His Word that there is not. The salvation which God bestows on His people at all is already far more than we deserve. --Joe! |
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3 | Is today the only day of salvation for a | 2 Pet 3:1 | Arnie | 41290 | ||
Dear Joe, I agree that we do not deserve the gifts from God. They are just that gifts. I'm not really shifting gears regarding another day of salvation, we can put several different candidates in line who have never had a first chance to know the truth, to accept Christ. 16 year old muslim suicide bombers, unborn children, children who have died young, anyone who has never been taught the truth, no fault of their own. | ||||||
4 | Is today the only day of salvation for a | 2 Pet 3:1 | Reformer Joe | 41320 | ||
Arnie: Again, Romans 1 makes it very clear that every single human being who is able to perceive creation around them in any fashion has received God's revelation. You keep avoiding a discussion of that crystal-clear passage, choosing instead to repeat your assertion that there MUST be another chance. What do you think that second chance is? Reincarnation? The Mormon concept of "spirit prison" where people can receive Christ in the afterlife and have people baptized for them here on earth? God the Father has revealed Himself to all. Humanity as a whole has rejected Him. The fault is ours. Nowhere does it say in Scripture that God MUST give everyone the gospel. There is no question that He calls on us to proclaim it everywhere. It is absolutely certain that at some point it will be proclaimed everywhere. But NOWHERE does it say that every individual who has ever lived has been given (or will be given) an opportunity to "accept or reject Jesus Christ." We are condemned not for our rejection of Christ. We earn Hell first and foremost for our rejection of God the Father and his holy moral will, clearly revealed in nature and in our consciences (in addition to the specific revelation He has given to His people). Sixteen-year-old Muslim suicide bombers are rebels against a holy God that has revealed Himself, and therefore they will be judged and sent deservingly to hell. The theological ramifications of your unbiblical notion here do much to destroy the idea of God's omnipotence and sovereignty and justice, Arnie. When it all boils down, you are really just making something up in your own head rather than deriving your theology from what God has expressly said in His Word. --Joe! |
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5 | Is today the only day of salvation for a | 2 Pet 3:1 | Arnie | 41353 | ||
Dear Joe, "Romans 1 makes it very clear that every single human being who is able to perceive creation around them in any fashion has received God's revelation." your using verse 20 to make this, well the very next verse tells who hes talking about, Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, KJV Which God is he referring to? ALLAH? Romans 1 is talking about people who have come to know the truth and rejected it. Arnie |
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6 | Is today the only day of salvation for a | 2 Pet 3:1 | Reformer Joe | 41362 | ||
Okay...one last time and I am done: "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse." --Romans 1:20 When did God start revealing His invisible attributes? SINCE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD. God has revealed Himself through CREATION, before a single word of Scripture had been written down, before He even spoke the first word to Adam, creation pointed out God and his attributes. Anyone who has use of their senses has access to the knowledge of God the Father. What are those attributes that have been clearly seen? HIS ETERNAL POWER AND DIVINE NATURE. This again was not revealed first by someone coming up and opening a Bible. CREATION reveals it to humanity. The tribal chief in the most remote part of the Amazon rain forest has access to creation, and therefore has access to the knowledge of the eternal power and divine nature of God. Thanks to his fallen nature, however, he will suppress that truth in unrighteousness. How are these things understood? From an evangelist coming to preach from Scripture? Not primarily, but rather THROUGH WHAT HAS BEEN MADE. If you can show me how a Muslim teenager does not have direct access to "what has been made," to God's creation, then I will be the first to jump on your "second-chance" bandwagon. The problem is not ACCESS to the truth of God, but rather SUPPRESSION of it, thanks to our depraved natures. Simply put, the unregenerate man DOES NOT WANT to believe. We are not morally neutral...we are hiding from and running from and denying the truth that is literally testified to all around us until God in His mercy corrects our thinking. But no one will be able to stand before God and make the claim of "not enough info," because God has made Himself and His nature evident through what has been made. Now, moving on to verse 21: "For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened." So there truth, which is evident to all, but each one of us rejects it and that results in futility of thinking and the darkening of our foolish hearts. Notice that he does not write "ignorant hearts," but rather "foolish" ones for rejecting the truth that was made evident to them by God in what has been made. You wrote: "Because that, when they knew God,KJV Which God is he referring to? ALLAH?" Nope...Allah is the replacement for the true God revealed in creation, thanks to the futility of their thinking and their darkened hearts and their suppression of the truth of the real God revealed in what has been made. Really, Arnie...under your scheme of thinking, it would be cruel to evangelize unreached people groups, because without hearing the name of Christ they would at least have an excuse. The whole point of Romans 1-3 is to show that Jews (who had the oracles of God, i.e. the Law and Prophets) and Gentiles (who did not) are equally under the wrath and judgment of God. It simply makes no sense to argue that God's wrath is only revealed (Romans 1:18-19) to those who have heard the name of Jesus, because before the 1st century A.D., that would mean EVERYONE had an excuse! And finally, you did not seem to address whether you think reincarnattion or spirit prison would be your "second chance" of choice. Please support which one you believe in by Scripture affirming its existence. --Joe! |
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7 | Is today the only day of salvation for a | 2 Pet 3:1 | Arnie | 41420 | ||
Dear Joe, Did Adam and Eve know that they were not to eat of the forbidden fruit by seeing Gods great eternal power in the creation or did God TELL THEM they were not to eat of the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" God has always used a human instrument (angels in some cases) to tell/ reveal is truth. I have posted romans 1o:13-15 which plainly tells us that we are taught the gospel by God sending someone to teach us. Rom 10:13-15 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! KJV You asked if I think reincarnation or spirit prison is the second chance, no, I certainly don't, I believe those who haven't been given the first chance will be RESURRECTED IN THE FLESH, i find that in Ezk 37. Ezek 37:1-14 37:1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones, 2 And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry. 3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest. 4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. 5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: 6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD. 7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone. 8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them. 9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live. 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. 11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD. KJV This is a PHYSICAL RESURRECTION. Arnie |
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8 | Is today the only day of salvation for a | 2 Pet 3:1 | angel1 | 41795 | ||
Hi arnie--Well, you appear to have opened a floodgate- God bless you and keep you. in Him angel-1 | ||||||