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1 | Are faithful Jews saved? | Deut 7:9 | kalos | 168300 | ||
Salvation Without Conversion? 'Q: As God's chosen people, will they (the Jews) all be in heaven? 'A: No, they will not all be in heaven. This is a false doctrine perpetuated by John Hagee and others. 'Why would [Paul] suffer great anguish and wish he were accursed for Israel’s sake if none of them were truly lost? His anguish comes from the realization that many Israelites are not saved.' ____________________ John Hagee "...believes that Jewish people do not need to be saved, since they are under a different covenant" (www.equip.org/free/DE405.htm). ____________________ 'The Bible paints a different picture. The apostle Paul demonstrates that Israel had a responsibility to respond to the Gospel, but rejected it. In Romans 10:19-21, he asks, “Did they [the Jews] fail to hear?” The rhetorical answer is “no.” Paul relates that, as light and darkness are understood by all, so the gospel has been made known to all the Jews (cf. Acts 17:6; 21:28). He continues, “Did they fail to understand?” The answer once again is “no.” Since Israel has become disobedient through unbelief (Rom. 11:30), God has delivered the gospel to the Gentiles. 'But God has not entirely rejected Israel — Paul (himself a Jew) is living proof of this (Rom. 11:1). God has preserved a remnant, while the others were hardened as a consequence of their unbelief and trusting in works instead of the righteousness of Christ (Rom. 11:5-7; cf. 9:31-32; 11:20-23). Elsewhere the apostle writes, “. . . by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His [God’s] sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin. . . . for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus” (Rom. 3:20, 23-24, emphasis added). 'To drive the point home, Paul goes on to say, “. . . the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the world was not through the Law, but through the righteousness of faith. For if those who are of the Law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise nullified; . . . it is by faith, that it might be in accordance with grace” (Rom. 4:13-14, 16). Scripture draws no distinction between Jews and Gentiles on the issue of salvation, which is attained by grace through faith alone in Christ, “apart from works of the law” (3:28; cf. vv. 21-22). 'Paul recognized that the Jews of his day had a misguided zeal that caused them to stumble on this very point (9:31-32; 10:2-4). Why would he suffer great anguish and wish he were accursed for Israel’s sake if none of them were truly lost? His anguish comes from the realization that many Israelites are not saved (Rom. 9:3, 6, 27; 10:1, 9-15; cf. Acts 2:14, 21, 37-39; Rom. 11:14, 17-23). 'The Law, revealed through the Jews, was meant to be “our tutor to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor” (Gal. 3:24-25). As the Bible clearly states: “There is neither Jew nor Greek . . . for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise” (vv. 28-29). To be saved, a person — whether Jew or Gentile — must turn to Christ (5:4-6; cf. John 14:6; Acts 4:12; Rom. 10:9-13)...In writing that the “message of the gospel was from Israel, not to Israel,” Hagee discourages Christians from sharing the Good News with unsaved Jews who, like everyone else, have need of the gospel if they are to spend eternity with God in heaven.' ____________________ To read more, including footnoted references, go to: (www.equip.org/free/DH005.htm). |
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2 | Are faithful Jews saved? | Deut 7:9 | Just Read Mark | 168301 | ||
I certainly agree with the broad sweep of your post. It is good, and clear. Could you help with the verses that indicate some special place for the Jews in God's heart, that are contained even in the same context as the verses quoted above. I am thinking of: "And so all Israel will be saved" (Romans 11:26) --- I recognize that it is talking about branches being pruned off, but then grafted back in. "Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable" (Romans 11:28,29) |
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3 | Are faithful Jews saved? | Deut 7:9 | Robin Hass | 168302 | ||
I'm not claiming to know one way on the other. Certainly I don't really care whether the Jews like being the target for evangelism. If the Sinai Covenant historically had the ability to save certain observant Jews then I think it may well continue to do so. God's covenants don't expire. Certainly there is a newer and better way... |
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4 | Are faithful Jews saved? | Deut 7:9 | mark d seyler | 168306 | ||
Hi Robin, I don't know that we can say the Sinai Covenant actually saved anyone. Life came in the keeping of the Law (Gal 3:12). Had any of them kept the law, they would have entrance into heaven. But none could, so substitutionary sacrifice was given. But that sacrifice didn't remove sin, it only covered sin. Heb 10:4 "For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins." Only in Jesus' death is sin truly and finally dealt with. Heb 10:10 "By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." This New Covenant replaces the Old, and with the destruction of the temple in 70 AD, animal sacrifice according to the Law cannot even be made. Heb 10 8 After saying above, "SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS AND WHOLE BURNT OFFERINGS AND sacrifices FOR SIN YOU HAVE NOT DESIRED, NOR HAVE YOU TAKEN PLEASURE in them" (which are offered according to the Law), 9 then He said, "BEHOLD, I HAVE COME TO DO YOUR WILL." He takes away the first in order to establish the second. So the Old Covenant has been replaced by the New Covenant. Even so, the Law can only point one to Christ. Gal 3:21 Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law. Gal 3:24 Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. Hebrews 10 explains in depth the answer to this question. There is a newer and better way, and an only way. Love in Christ, Mark |
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5 | Are faithful Jews saved? | Deut 7:9 | DocTrinsograce | 168308 | ||
I thought that's what I said. Perhaps not as perspicuously... but I thought that's what I said. :-) | ||||||