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1 | Can you please explain tithing? | Deut 14:1 | jlhetrick | 163365 | ||
Hello jl, Thanks for responding. Unfortunately you presented nothing more than your belief and offered nothing that even suggests that the tithe is no longer commanded by God. Let me attempt to address your post in the order that you laid it down. First you write: that “what I mean is no one required someone to give ten percent.” My response: The answer to your statement that no one required is, God required (please refer to my previous post for scriptural support). You write that the tithe was a part of the law and does not justify us. I agree, your on track here. At no point have I argued that we are justified by following any commands of God. We are justified by faith in Christ alone. Please study the book of Romans for understanding. You ask me to explain that the tithe is not part of the law. This confuses me as I have already argued that the tithe is a command from God. Anything that God commands is part of His law. Regarding your reference to my quoting Luke 11:42 I am still not sure of your point. Are you trying to insinuate that I was teaching that paying your tithe relieves you from the responsibility of obeying God in all areas?????? This is not my position at all and I’m not sure why you might have drawn that conclusion. Regarding Jesus and the disciples not requiring believers to tithe “to them”. I think you have missed the point completely. We do not tithe to any person, but to God. Again, referring back to my previous post I pointed out that the tithe was a well established part of God’s law at that time and practiced without question (though I am sure there were those then, as now, who did not obey it fully as they did not obey other commandments). The tithe is made to God. It is “received”, or “taken” by those that God has entrusted leadership over His people. Again, as I mentioned previously, in the OT this was the tribe of Levite, after the finished work of Christ, it is the church. Regarding the passages in Hebrews, I continue to believe you are missing the point. Lets look at it. Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. What is being said here? This is the basic teaching of Christianity. The law here is referring to the whole economy of the time if you will. That is, where tithing was concerned it was commanded, it recognized that all they had came from God in the first place, it served to provide for the needs of the Levites who did not have the option of doing other works to provide for their sustenance. Secondly, the passage is making reference to the sacrificial system by which the people of God made atonement. This served two purpose generally speaking. It demonstrated the requirement of death as the penalty for sin and it pointed to the need for a sacrifice and to the Savior to come. Heb. 7:11 is rhetorical. Many believe that Paul wrote this book and this verse is a good representation of Paul’s way of presenting his point by anticipating the question his reader might ask. “If perfection were by the Levitical priesthood...” We know it wasn’t, “what further need was there that another priest should rise...” We know there was the need. So what change in the law is Paul referring too? Is it the Ten Commandments, the tithe, etc.? I don’t believe so. Is it the law as it pertains to the system of sacrifice which was established by God and required of the people before the coming of the Savior? I say yes. And this answer is supported by the wider teachings of scripture in context. There is no other teaching I have found that suggest that any other law of God has been abolished. You argue that the tithe was part of the law and I agreed. Jesus said: Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Paul said: Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Hope this was helpful, in love, Jeff |
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2 | Can you please explain tithing? | Deut 14:1 | jlpangilinan | 163398 | ||
Jeff, I think we should refresh all my question to prove that tithe is not requirements in the new testament. If may I suggest we keep this discussion as a question and answer type so we can continue clear in both part. Question: As tithe as part of the law it will not justify us why keep doing the things that will not justify you? Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Please answer. Question: How many laws of moses did you keep observing? Stoning to death your brethren if you caught them in adultery, not eating pork, not going out on Sabbath what else? If you are not doing those things of the law, and only keep the tithe which is part of the law, it is the same that leave the other undone. Mt 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Please answer. Question: What is it in the tithe that it was excluded to other part of the law, if do not continue other things which is part of the law why keep doing tithe (ten percent) Please answer. As of now I have only three point to answer, please answer them, then we can continue further. God bless, |
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3 | Can you please explain tithing? | Deut 14:1 | jlhetrick | 163605 | ||
Hello again jl, I didn't want you to think I was ignoring you, I've been really busy with work and the Holiday prep. and all. I too often give impulsive responses and I would rather not do that here. Especially with a subject that I began my first post by advising that I am not an authority on the subject of tithes. When I have time I will respond to this post and if you are still interested we can take up the dialogue. P.S. I just wanted to remind you of the forum rule and the legal issue of quoting the works of others. Don't forget to make reference to your source when you directly quote another's work (i.e., Easton's Bible Dictionary) Sincerely, Jeff |
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