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1 | What is interpretation of Hebrews 6:4-6 | Heb 6:9 | lightedsteps | 220828 | ||
Hi Beja Going to my Greek Interlinear Bible I find it says. Heb.6:4-6 4.) For (it is) impossible. (For) impossible the (ones) once being enlightened and tasting of the (2)gift - (1)heavenly and sharers becoming Spirit of (the) Holy 5.) and (2)(the) good (1)tasting (4)of God (3)word and the powerful deeds of a coming age, 6.) and falling away, again to renew to repentance, crucifying again for themselves the Son - of God and putting (him) to open shame. The "IF" in all actuality was more than likely added, because in the translation from Greek into English, there needed to be a connector in order for the English to sound correct to the reader. Even with the "IF" removed, I come to the same conclusion, based on what was written in the 4th. verse. "For (it is) impossible. (For) impossible" Therefore the "IF" isn't needed to understand what Paul was writing, he makes the point in the 4th. verse. He is making a declaration, it does not need to be qualified. He is in essence saying, anyone having accepted this Grace (gift) of God, and everything it entails, cannot detract from, or in any way nullify the sacrificial work of Jesus. Once becoming a child of God, He never disinherits anyone. Because of the shame it would bring upon His name to/in the world. We also should have our confidence in God. Php 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: Joh 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. 1Co 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. Grace be unto you lightedsteps |
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2 | What is interpretation of Hebrews 6:4-6 | Heb 6:9 | Beja | 220830 | ||
Lightedsteps, I'm not trying to argue that one can loose their salvation. I don't think that this passage is teaching that a person can loose it. I believe whole heartedly in the Calvinist doctrine of Perseverance of the Saints. But I can tell you for certain where the IF came from. If you want to have IF in there at all it is unavoidably connected to the "falling away." Your end conclusion I wouldn't begrudge. But you have to translate the falling away some how and the options are limited. I can tell you for certain that what it is defined as impossible is the renewing to repentence. In the greek there is really no room for confusion. The main clause is "For it is impossible to renew them to repentence." Now from there you can argue the passage multiple ways, but that much greek grammer constrains us to. There is a fellow that frequents these forums, Bro. Tim. He seems to be more proficient in greek than I am and I would urge him to validate or correct my claims here if he notices this post. But once again, I don't think you are comming to a wrong conclusion, you are just reaching it in a way the grammer won't support. In Christ, Beja |
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3 | What is interpretation of Hebrews 6:4-6 | Heb 6:9 | lightedsteps | 220836 | ||
Dear brother Beja I do not mean to belabor the question, seeing that greater minds than mine have grappled over this issue for centuries. Seeing we are of the same mind, as far as our understanding of the irrevocable nature of our Salvation. Let me if I may, ask one question, in the light of 2 other verses of scripture, that I base my understanding of the Heb. verses in question on. 1.) What was it that separated Adam from God, what has it been since Adam, that has separated mankind from God? When reading the following verses, keep in mind, "It is impossible", for us to fall away, as assuredly as "It would be impossible" for us to be renewed, if we could fall away. My true understanding of the Heb. verses are that both statements are categorically impossible, while true. 1Jn 3:6 No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. 1Jn 3:9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. Grace be unto you lightedsteps |
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4 | What is interpretation of Hebrews 6:4-6 | Heb 6:9 | Beja | 220839 | ||
Lightedsteps, Sin seperates us from God. In Christ, Beja |
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