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1 | foolish and unlearned questions avoid | 2 Tim 2:23 | Aixen7z4 | 95799 | ||
I take a chance to ask this question, hoping it is neither foolish nor unlearned. To whom was Paul speaking when he said, "... folish and unlearned questions avoid ..."? Paul was speaking to Timothy, was he not? And Timothy was his fellow-evangelist, a leader and a teacher to the church. May I suggest, respectfully, that that admonition is for the leaders of today; the leaders of the church and the leaders of this forum. It is not for the foolish people who ask the foolish questions. It is for their leaders. They need to deal with these things. So often I hear preachers passing on to the congregation responsibility for the things they need to do themselves. As it is, the Lord has not given us a democracy, where every opinion counts and the majority rules. He has given us a theocracy with a Chief Shepherd and under-shepherds who are to lead and to ensure that the Lord's commands are followed and the sheep are fed. May I suggest that the leaders here get together among themselves, in private e-mails, perhaps, and agree on a way to deal with the advent of foolish and unlearned questions. If you deal with them correctly, then it does not become an issue. The offending people can be dealt with in private and the forum can be left with only content that is profitable. Anyone can ask a question. Anyone can offer an answer, perhaps. But then the "prophets" should "prophesy" one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted (1 Cor 14:31). If I am wrong, I would hope I could be corrected privately, and by the leaders. But I suspect I am not wrong (Acts 20:28;1Pe 5:2). Unless there is leadership that really leads, and in a scritural way, the situation will continue. |
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2 | How do we learn? | 2 Tim 2:23 | Aixen7z4 | 96176 | ||
How do we learn to ask good questions? How do I learn to do the other things a Christian has to do? This is an attempt to provoke discussion of, and hopefully some action on, an important question. I did not think or expect that the previous question would bring an end to the discussion, and I hope it did not offend anyone. In fact, if I may, I would like to ask it again in a different form. But now I am at a loss to find the appropriate phrasing. I hope that the lead, above, will serve. To preface the question is also difficult. But have you noticed that teaching in the church is somewhat different from teaching in a secular school? The school seems to teach us to do things. It gives us skills. The church, on the other hand, seems to teach us mainly how to talk. In this case, it does not even teach us how to ask questions. What if the people need to learn how to do that? The epistles are written to the church and they give us things to do. We preach to people that these things need to be done. Should there not be people to give them the skills. I am suggesting here that teaching consists of several steps and that announcing what is to be done is only the first step. A second step is to demonstrate or model the skill after ensuring that the students are observing, paying attention. A third step is to give the student a chance to copy the skill, to ask them to follow the example. A fourth step is to give the student feedback, hopefully positive, but corrective if necessary, on his performance. A fifth step is to encourage continued practice and application of the skill. I suggest that it is impossible to teach without having recognized and respected teachers who are willing to do all of the above. Likewise it is impossible to learn much without being a part of the above, on the receiving end. Lastly, I suggest that teaching and learning go together. Have you noticed that that is how people learn to pray? That is how they acquire other skills as well. That is how they learn to ask proper questions. If they are willing to learn that, then perhaps they will also be willing to learn to do the things related to their question. In all of this I assume that people ask questions in order to learn. But that, I suppose, is a big assumption. Some may ask a question when they already know the answer, so that others can learn. Others may ask for other reasons. It is to be hoped that people want to know something in order to do something. I have suggested that it is up the leaders of this forum to "avoid foolish and unlearned question". One way to do it is to teach us how to ask proper questions. How do they do that? I'd like to suggest that the method is given in the verses following. "In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will". |
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3 | How do we learn? | 2 Tim 2:23 | DAIRYLEADER5 | 96182 | ||
Aixen7z4, The apostil Paul tells us in scripture that he came in demonstration and power, there is little done today in churchs. People have gotten to the point that they want a concertive service and nothing out of the ordinary to happen. The Bible tells us that, I need no man to teach me, except the Holy Ghost. Asking questions are nessary to the body to grow, first thing I suggest is to think about your questions before you ask, the spirit might give you the answer, 2nd, try looking it up for yourself first, use your index or reference material or search from the internet, if that doesnt help then by all means ask, someone will help. You may not like the answer but someone will help. You cant practice to pray ,that comes by the spirit, The Bible tells us that when we dont know how to pray the spirit utters groanings, for us that cannot be uttered, that not the exact quote but I believe that you get the Idea.I was told by a frend that if I came to this forum that a few here would try to twist my words around and muddle the truth, but Im still here trying to help those who would listen. Dont be afraid to ask questions just ask, I will answer as best as I can,and I believe that there are others here also who dont care to share their wisdom and knowledge that God has given them with others. but false doctrine will be met by the truth. Let every man be a lier and let God be true. With love in Jesus D.L.5 | ||||||
4 | Can't we practice asking good questions? | 2 Tim 2:23 | Aixen7z4 | 96248 | ||
I am inclined to agree with you that there is little done in today in the churches. Wish we could see the power that Paul talked of. Wish we could see some areas of the world turned upside-down again. Some are saying that Christians are ordinary people with extraordinary claims. Truth is I heard that a long time ago and I don't know if they're still saying it. What are they saying about the church today? Some say we are under the power of the banks, the financial institutions that lend us the money to build big buildings. Some say all they do is talk. Perhaps we build big buildings with great acoustics and we buy power amplifiers so that can talk. We talk a lot, and loudly, and there is little else that we do. I am not sure that is fair, frankly. Catholics are known for helping the poor, and Methodists run good hospitals, Seventh Day Adventists stress good health and Presbyterians who run nursing homes. So I am not sure. It may be that we are to do those things and still preach the gospel and provide counseling and show love in more practical ways. But before we do any of those things we must talk about them. So we are back to the subject of talking, which includes asking questions. As you say, asking questions is necessary for the body to grow. What we are trying to do is to make sure that the right kinds of questions are being asked. Foolish and unlearned questions do not cause the body to grow. Rather, they cause strife and other bad things. Now I gather that you are a teacher, because you say, “Don’t be afraid to ask questions just ask, I will answer as best as I can”. May I suggest that you make sure that others consider you a teacher and recognize you as such? Then, for all teachers, the idea is that you decline to answer foolish and unlearned questions? Ignoring is one way to extinguish a behavior. Better yet is the idea of helping that person. Rephrase the question for him. And when you do answer, may I suggest that you consider all of scripture in giving your response? You say, “The Bible tells us that, I need no man to teach me, except the Holy Ghost” but the Bible also says that God gives us teachers to answer our questions and otherwise to build up the body. It is true that “The Bible tells us that when we don’t know how to pray the spirit utters groanings”. We must balance that with the fact Jesus said, “After this manner therefore pray ye”. And there are other instructions about the proper way to pray. There are examples for us to follow. And always, always, we learn by practicing. “Practice what you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, and model your way of living on it, and the God of peace (of untroubled, undisturbed well-being) will be with you” (Philippians 4:9). We need to practice asking useful questions too. Do you think this response is helpful? |
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5 | Can't we practice asking good questions? | 2 Tim 2:23 | EdB | 96278 | ||
Aixen7z4 In response to the first paragraph, the reason we see so little happening in church is people are seeking everything but the kingdom of God. They are seeking various things and are being promised various things, but Scripture says, Seek first the Kingdom of God and everything else will be taken care of. We have lost that, today we seek for personal worth, manifestations, self justification, answers to life’s questions, riches, health, wealth, knowledge, wisdom, the list is endless. Many in leadership promise to supply the answers, they start new programs, hone preaching skills, learn psychology, some even develop manipulation skills. Yet the people want for more. The church has got to get back to seeking God. Getting back to the issue of questions. While here is no stupid question provided the question is genuine, people have learned the technique making statement by asking it as a question, then they can always hide behind the old, “I was just asking a question”, alibi. Many people ask questions that are birthed in division. The whole point of the question was not seeking understanding but rather to make a statement or to open division. Also a question asked in certain ways can appear innocent but carry as suggestion with them. For instance the question can be asked, “do you “still” beat your wife?” The implication is that you evidently had at one time beaten you wife. Many ask similar style questions on this forum. They state the question in such a way that human logic draws you to the answer or opinion they want you to arrive at. Most of the time when caught they plead innocence and in some case they are but most have an agenda. For a leader, or anyone willing to step out and bring Godly correction requires the leading of the Holy Spirit but also how others are being lead of the Holy Spirit determines the results. Many times when a leader brings correction someone will get angry and use this, the correction itself, as a point of contention. You have probably seen this happen in churches and we have all seen this on the forum when one, two and sometimes as many as five people try to correct bad teaching the offender will often times try to turn the table making themselves out to be the righteous and the others as the problem. EdB |
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