2 Timothy

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NASB	2 Timothy 2:23 But refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels.
AMPLIFIED 2015	2 Timothy 2:23 But have nothing to do with foolish and ignorant speculations [useless disputes over unedifying, stupid controversies], since you know that they produce strife and give birth to quarrels.

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Subject: Trifling (stupid) controversies

Bible Note: Concerning St. Judas of Iscariot, the Sabbath, Tithing, Water Salvation, Genesis 1-2, Genesis 6:4, Hebrews 6, etc.

AMPLIFIED 2 Timothy 2:23 But refuse (shut your mind against, have nothing to do with) trifling (ill-informed, unedifying, stupid) controversies over ignorant questionings, for you know that they foster strife and breed quarrels.

Once again here on the forum someone -- in this case several someones --(Person X) takes a stand on their interpretation of one verse of Scripture or one doctrine. They cling to it no matter what. Others on the forum do all they can possibly do, using both Scripture and reason, to point out that the stand the person has taken is neither Scriptural nor logical. Person X apparently ignores every point made by every other poster. Person X quotes the same question or argument again and again. Other posters try in every way possible to make their points as clear and plain as they possibly can. Time after time Scripture and reason are totally ignored.

After the other posters have repeatedly made their point as plain as day, Person X continues to repeat his one misinterpreted verse or point, saying it again and again, like a mantra. After days or weeks have gone by and 100 or more posts are made to the same thread, one or both sides finally gives up. Someone finally admits they've reached a stalemate. In vain one hopes that it's finally over and good riddance to the debate.

Lo and behold, a month goes by and here comes the same issue all over again. Only it's someone else asking the question this time. Sometimes the postings here are like a dog going round and round chasing his own tale. Or like a broken record.

It should come as no surprise that many former Forum members eventually give up and leave the Forum in disgust, never to return.

What is my point? What difference does it make? If my point was that night is dark and day is light, someone would write in and give me 10 arguments why I am wrong. Though we or an angel from heaven stood before that person for 6 literal, 24-hour days trying to reason with them, the person would close her mind and resist the truth.

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