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1 | Evidence of holy spirit in a Christian? | 2 Tim 1:14 | Aixen7z4 | 104545 | ||
Dear Eli, Welcome. My advice to you would be to take it easy and tread softly. A statement such as "in the Bible this is not true" is a bold statement. It is also accusatory and condescending, as are other statements such as “what you need to understand …”. It suggests that the people who have gone before you are wrong and you are right. Moreover, it suggests that you know the Bible and they don't. I am not sure why people make statement s like that, but it happens. Personally, I find these statements offensive and unnecessary. Mostly unnecessary. This is a place where everyone reads the Bible and some have learned more than others. It is not because of ignorance that I say the Holy Spirit enters a person's life at the moment of salvation. I may even think that you need to understand that. But I have to be careful no to say that. Believe me, I am aware of the passages you quote. I might even undertake to teach you to put those passages into context. But I do not know you well and I am not sure at this point that you will listen. I would only suggest that you say what you think and think about what others say. To say that, because you read in Acts the apostles were laying their hands on Christians caused the Holy Spirit to come upon them, then that is the way it is today, does not make it so. Let me just say this, and perhaps you will think about it. Some of the things in the book of Acts are transitory. They were done as signs in order to assist the Jewish Christians in understanding what the church would be like. Now, we walk by faith, not by sight. The Holy Spirit comes like a wind and no one knows whither it comes or where it goes. The person who repents of sin and trusts in Christ is saved and his life comes under the control of the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit who baptizes us into the body of Christ, seals us, gives us assurance of salvation and helps us to understand the word of God. I advise you not to go ahead and say you disagree. Think about these things. Search the Scriptures. And may the Lord give you understanding in all things. In this thread we were considering evidences by which we know that we have received the Holy Spirit. Interesting that we are seem to be finding inward evidences and not outward signs. You might want to read about those in this thread and tell us what you think or look for them in the Bible and tell us what you find. |
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2 | Evidence of holy spirit in a Christian? | 2 Tim 1:14 | FightingForTheChurch | 104546 | ||
Dear Mr. Aixen, I do appreciate you responding to my note and I apologize if I have offended anyone or said anything rashly. It is my first time on these forums and I am still learning my way! I am sorry! I do not disagree when you say that the Holy Spirit enters a new believers life upon salvation and that he/she is saved through the Spirit, and is marked with the seal of the Holy Spirit. I am drawing your attention to the endument of power in a Christian's life. We as humans are powerless to preform miracles and signs correct? But when we are empowered by the Spirit as Jesus said, we have the ability to do greater things than He! (Acts 1:8) The result of pentecost thrust the early church into a bizarre new world for all of them! Simple fishermen and farmers found themselves healing sicknesses and casting out demons in Jesus name! The teachers of the law where shocked when they saw uneducated men so fearless and knowledgable in Acts 4:13. I have to disagree with you when you say that the days of the early church or set apart from our present day. I find no scriptures to support the claim that the laying on of hands was for that specific time, and that the power of the Spirit was only given to the early church. If we are to say that those days are gone and we live in a new era of the Spirit where the Power is not poured out then we are not living in the kingdom of God, "for the kingdom of God is not of talk but of Power! 1 Corinthians 4:20" Actually, I have been a witness to the same experiences today that were then! I seen people become full of the power of the Spirit when others had laid hands on them, and I myself have recieved the Baptism of the Holy Spirit through the laying on of hands. For me to say that it does not happen today would be denying what God has done for me and I would not dare to do that! And to go on further, I also have laid my hands on other believers and they have been filled with the Holy Spirit in a dramatic way! It is important that we don't convince ourselves of another way of ministering, because Paul said in 1 Corinthians 2:4 that "his teachings were not with wise and pursuasive words but with a demonstration of the Spirit's power, so that faith may not rest on the wisdom of man, but on God's power!" Halleluia! (Read Acts 4:33) Again, I apologize for causing a dispute but this is something laid on my heart and I must let it out. I understand this thread was about the evidence of the Spirit, so you those who are interested read Acts 2 on the day of pentecost, Acts 10 at Cornelius's house, and Acts 19 on the road to Ephusus. You will see what happens to the believers when they are Baptized in the Holy Spirit. The Spirit then enables them to do things they could not do before. (Acts 2:4) Please explore this and ask God do reveal the truth of this subject to you. Grace and peace in Christ, Eli |
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