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1 | It isn't right to eat pig is it? | 1 Tim 4:4 | wordoer | 104301 | ||
Hello Steve, I believe that you already have a preconceived notion and are reading something into these verses; maybe it is because you think "unclean animals" are for "food". I cannot get around the teaching in Lev.11 and Deut.14, of which animals are clean (for food) and unclean (not for food). It reads so plainly that we are not to eat unclean animals. It seems that Sissy is at this point also; further study may be of benefit to others on the forum. For me it is going to far to assume that unclean animals are clean, without scripture to back it up. I only ask that you please refrain from using confusing terminology, I don't know what "ceremonially clean food" is, it only appears that you are trying to reclassify what God in His Word has already classified. The only hurdle for me in continuing this discussion is this question that needs to be addressed first and foremost, Where does the Word of God teach "unclean animals" are for "food"? Paul said we (I think Christians) are destroying speculation and taking every thought captive, we need to take these thoughts captive and examine them to come to the truth. 2 Cor 10:5 We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, Please look at this part of your closing statement; "Eating pork (or rattlesnake, or shrimp) can't make a believer unclean because there are no unclean foods." You are giving examples of what the Bible has classified as "unclean animals" and then saying there are no "unclean foods". To say the least it is confusing. I would agree that there are no unclean foods. What leads you to believe there are no unclean animals? We should look at this with humility and be willing to examine these things to find the truth. I only want to search out the truth, and if it is not the truth it is a lie. If you do not wish to answer my questions I will understand that. Please only reply if you wish to study this further ( I have asked two questions in this post and I would like answers), you may see something in scripture that I don’t, please enlighten me. I would rather study it out to see what is so. I am hoping I may even learn something. I hope this is a help to you and others as well, wordoer |
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2 | It isn't right to eat pig is it? | 1 Tim 4:4 | stjones | 104398 | ||
Hi, wordoer; I'd be willing to discuss this further but I'm afraid I've shot my bolt. I've explained why I believe all the passages cited (in Mark 7, 1 Timothy 4, 1 Corinthians 10 and Acts 10), taken as a whole, convey the same message: ": Jesus declared all foods 'clean.'" (Mark 7:19) I know I'm repeating myself, but Jesus stated unequivocally: "Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him." (Mark 7:15) What effect does eating a pork chop have one me? But to address your questions: 1) "Where does the Word of God teach 'unclean animals' are for 'food'?" a) Assuming that "food" is what I eat, the above passages make it clear an unclean animal can be eaten. b) Acts 10:9-16 includes examples of "unclean" animals that Peter is told to eat (make them "food"), together with this admonition: "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean." (Acts 10:15) 2) "What leads you to believe there are no unclean animals?" See 1b above. There may be a sense in which an animal is still unclean but can nonetheless be eaten (because all can be eaten), but I don't think it would be relevant to a discussion that started with a question about eating pork. As I've explained, I can find nothing that prohibits a Christian from eating pork, even if swine are still unclean under the Law of Moses. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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