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1 | Reconciling 1 Tim 2:4 with Rom 8:29 | 1 Tim 2:4 | GeneZ | 96609 | ||
If the verses you mentioned are speaking of predestination, then all men would get saved. " who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." (1 Timothy 2:4) Its God's desire... All men at some point in their lives are given a chance(s) to know God. But God's desire can not over ride the volition of man. This glorifies God even when men reject him. For it reveals and proves that God created a creature (man) with free will. For if man did not have free will we would not be free to reject God's desire for all men to be saved. All men would be saved. "For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren..." (Romans 8:29) That means that he knows who will believe. And he has chosen from all who would believe, for us(Church age believers) to be in Christ. That is, chosen to be the Bride of Christ. We were chosen for this before the foundations of the world. Moses was not chosen to be in Christ, nor was David. We were. It was God's sovereign choice that we be born during the Church age, as to receive the particular blessings that accompany the salvation to be given during the Church age. The Church has been called to reign with Christ. David always looked forward to the day when the Messiah would reign *OVER* him, not with him. What we have been chosen for is a special position in eternity, not simply to get saved (as some mistaken the Scriptures to be saying). " From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live." (Acts 17:26 nivĀ®) God CHOSE you to be born now. He did not chose you to believe in Him. He knew you would choose to believe in him, but he did not make you believe in Him. Yet, He chose (predestined) that you would be in Christ when you would believe. For Acts 17:26, says, that he determined when and where you were to be born. In that way he chose you to be in Christ. You were born during the Church age. That was God's sovereign choice. We have received a special and different area of grace in our salvation(why we are not under Law) that the OT saints did not receive in their salvation. They were not chosen to be in Christ before the foundations of the world. " Concerning *this salvation*, the prophets, who spoke _*of the grace that was to come to you*_, searched intently and with the greatest care.." (1 Peter 1:10 nivĀ®) We have received a portion of grace that was not given to OT saints. We have been chosen to be a part of the Bride of Christ. The helpmate of Christ in his reign. Grace and peace, Gene |
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2 | Reconciling 1 Tim 2:4 with Rom 8:29 | 1 Tim 2:4 | Radioman2 | 96615 | ||
GeneZ: You wrote: "All men at some point in their lives are given a chance(s) to know God." My question is: where in the Bible does it teach this? In no way am I disputing you when I ask this question. I really want to know where this is in the Bible. I have heard this idea all my life, but I wouldn't know where to find it in the Bible. If you could find it for me, I would greatly appreciate it. Grace to you, Radioman2 |
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3 | Reconciling 1 Tim 2:4 with Rom 8:29 | 1 Tim 2:4 | Pemican | 96623 | ||
Radioman2 I'm not sure this is exactly what you are looking for but the passage that comes to mind is Romans 1:18-20, and passages like Psalm 19:1. Also there is John 16:8-11 about the convicting ministry of the Holy Spirit in the souls of men. Pemican |
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