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1 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | kalos | 10726 | ||
*May* a woman speak in church? Maybe, maybe not. *Can* women speak in church? Yes. They can and they do. |
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2 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | Makarios | 10731 | ||
"2:15 preserved through the bearing of children. This may mean (1) brought safely through childbirth, (2) saved through the birth of a Child (Jesus the Savior), or (3) that a woman’s greatest achievement is found in her devotion to her divinely ordained role: to help her husband, to bear children, and to follow a faithful, chaste way of life." (Ryrie Expanded Edition NASB Study Bible) "saved in childbearing: Some believe this verse refers to the birth of Christ and that the woman is Mary. However, it may refer to the woman’s special task of bearing children (see Titus 2:3–5). The salvation referred to here is not justification, but daily sanctification. Most likely, Paul is referring to being delivered from the desire to dominate by recognizing one’s appropriate place in God’s creation order. If they continue suggests that this salvation (that is, sanctification) is conditioned upon women’s continued walk in the faith, in love, in holiness, and in self-control." (Nelson's NKJV Study Bible) "Salvation, As Deliverance—God’s salvation includes women as well as men. Compare 4:10. God saves them. Their childbearing does not. See note on Eph 2:4-5, 7-10. This text contradicted an early non-biblical idea that women had to become males in order to be saved or that sexual relationships and birth are evil, part of the world’s way instead of God’s. The literal translation is “she will be saved through the childbearing.” This may be a reference to the birth of Christ as glorifying womanhood. If the meaning is woman’s physical safety in childbearing, the reference should be interpreted against the background of Ge 3:16. If the meaning is the birth of Christ by the virgin Mary, the phrase should be interpreted as a fulfillment of the prophecy in Ge 3:15 about Eve’s seed bruising the head of the serpent-tempter. The preposition here translated through does not mean by means of. See 1 Co 3:16 for a similar use of saved and through, where the meaning is to come safely through the fire. Woman’s physical safekeeping in childbirth is the most likely meaning." (Disciple's Study Bible) "... Paul is speaking in general terms; God does not want all women to be married (1 Cor. 7:25-40), let alone bear children. 'if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control. The godly appearance, demeanor, and behavior commanded of believing women in the church (vv. 9-12) is motivated by the promise of deliverance from any inferior status and the joy of raising godly children." (MacArthur NKJV Study Bible) |
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3 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | djconklin | 27898 | ||
Interesting points Nolan. However, whenever Paul uses the word "sozo" it always refers to salvation from sin. So, contrary to the speculations in the note in the Disciples Bible this verse does say that women will be saved through child-bearing. So, what does Paul mean here? As a side-note it was interesting to see how quickly the traditionalists dealt with this verse(if at all!). |
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4 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | Robert Nicholson | 27900 | ||
Dear brother: I realize that this is not an answer to your primary question. However, I would like to carry on from your last post. "She shall be saved in childbearing "childrearing" How? "If she continue in faith, and charity and holiness and sobriety" V. 15 The word "saved" in this verse actually means she will be perserved. I believe that what Paul means is that a Christian woman who maintains a faithful life before her children, that her testimony will have an impact on her children. And like the woman of Proverbs 31 "her children will rise up, and call her blessed" V. 28. Conversely, the woman who does not maintain a faithful testimony before her children may have great aggravation in childrearing. I have difficulty with the amplified translation on this one. Peace in Our Saviour's Name Robert |
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5 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | djconklin | 27906 | ||
Robert, Thanks for the quick and kind response! If Paul had meant "preserved" then he could have used the word "zoogoneo" as in Luke 17:33 or "suntereo" as in Matt. 9:17 or Luke 5:38. The only time where I can find that the word "sozo" "means" preserve is in 2 Tim 4:18 and even there it is talking about ultimate preservation: "And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom ..." and not about preservation frompain in this world. --- The word "teknogonia" means "childbearing"; it has no other meaning. Again, thanks for your kind response. |
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