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1 | anti-christ revealed before rapture? | 2 Thess 2:3 | chris a | 48334 | ||
Nolan, I'm not sure why you're concluding that the day of the Lord and the rapture will be at the same time. I must note first that I do not believe the Day of the Lord is a literal day but rather a period of time. As I read IIThessalonians 2:1-2, I see the composure of the readers about the coming of the Lord and our gathering together with him (rapture) being shaken because they were told that they were in the Day of the Lord. They felt this period had already started, again not a single day. Why was there composure shaken? The only reason the makes sense to me is that they were expecting to be 'gathered together' with the Lord BEFORE the Day of the Lord. Why else would they be shaken with regard to the coming of the Lord? I believe they expected to be raptured before that Day, but when they heard the Day had started and they were not raptured they lost their 'composure'. Also notice v3, "Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unles the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction," (NASB, '77). The 'it' refered to in v3 is the Day of the Lord not the rapture. Jump over to v7,8. The lawless one will NOT be revealed until the Holy Spirit is removed! This removal IS the rapture! There is no way that christians devoid of the Holy Spirit could withstand the evil one! With out the Holy Spirit there is no such thing as a Christian, because He seals us unto salvation! I believe that these versus strongly suggest a pretrib rapture. My list would be as follows: 1. Rapture (Removal of the Restrainer) 2. Revealing of the lawless one (he will begin in peace and prosperity, see Daniel) 3. The Great Tribulation/The Day of the Lord, beginning (Destruction of the Jews and any Christians saved after the rapture.) 4. The Lord slays the anti-christ/The Day of the Lord, ending (Revelation and Daniel have much more to say about this period of time.) I am also 'on the fence' with this discussion, so please let me know if my interpretation has holes. But I am quite certain that if the restrainer is the Holy Spirit, He cannot leave without taking all Christians with Him. Without the Holy Spirit we would be defenseless against evil! I would love to consider your comments on the pre-trib view, what was the post titled? GOD bless!! chris |
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2 | anti-christ revealed before rapture? | 2 Thess 2:3 | Makarios | 49963 | ||
Greetings Chris, I believe that our differences in the way that we view 'the Day of the Lord' stem from our differing perceptions of it as being a "day" or a period of time. To be honest, I do not quite agree with everything that you have written, but its really nothing to make a point of, since we are talking about eschatology which happens to be a topic that everyone seemingly has a different point of view on. As long as we all know that the Lord is returning and we have salvation in Him, then the "how" is very trivial. I have found that the "Prewrath" point of view is the view that I have found that makes the most sense to me, and you can explore that view in detail at www.signministries.org. I appreciate your response, and I apologize for the delay in getting back with you. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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