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1 | Must Christ have had a human nature? | Phil 2:7 | Ray | 72089 | ||
Hi Jesified, I appreciate your post but I am late in taking note of it. I must wait until a better time to answer fully. Are you using the NIV? You have answered with Philippians 2:7. The word "nature" is not the word in the Greek. The word is "morphe", Strong's #3444 meaning, "form, shape". Philippians 2:6 talks about the "form of God" and verse 7 talks about the "form of a bond-servant". Both are #3444. So Philippians 2:7 is not talking about a human nature as we think of it. He emptied Himself taking the form of a bond-servant, and being in the likeness of men. But I believe that He was found in appearance as a Man. I believe that He was God's Servant taking the form of a bond-servant. One source that I use translates Philippians 2:6,7, "who subsisting in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, becoming in the likeness of men". Note the "subsisting" rather than "existing". I will have to talk with you later about some of our differing outlooks. I think of the one Seed of Abraham. I see Jesus as the Son of David, the Son of Joseph, and the Son of Abraham. I see Jesus as the Lamb of God and as a Passover lamb without blemish. In the Lord's Supper, I think that we drink the blood of the Man. I will also have to take issue with your understanding of Job 15:14. I have been asking this question of why people think that we need to think of Jesus as a man for some time now. I welcome your input and hoping to talk with you later when I am more awake also. From the heart, Ray |
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2 | Must Christ have had a human nature? | Phil 2:7 | David_24597 | 72093 | ||
Of course Jesus was completely and totaly human. How else could His sacrifice have been of any benefit to the human race? Rom. 5:12 and 17 kinda hints at this. Jesus also didn't even have any knowledge of being our Creator when He was born. He had to "learn" Isa. 7:15-16 and Luke 2:40 and 52. (Don't get me wrong John chapter 1 shows that Jesus created all things. He is our Creator.) He also proved to all the universe that God's law CAN be kept. Satan had cast doubt on God's word and Jesus proved that God was right and Satan was wrong. Had Jesus ever commited even one sin His death could not have been for our sins but for His own sin and everyone would know that it was impossible to obey what God asks. Jesus did not just save humans. He saved all of God's creations from anarchy and satanic rule. Sorry, I can't think of any references for this right now. Just my humble opinion. But Heb. 1:2 and 11:3 mention the existence of other worlds besides our own. Surely they were affected by Satan's rebellion (though our own world is the only one that has fallen). | ||||||