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1 | Am I saved until Christ returns? | Phil 1:6 | 2 Ti 2:15 | 82780 | ||
I believe when you truly have "accepted Christ" as your saviour he will keep you. The problem is, if you turn back. Heb. 10:26 says there will be no more sacrifice for our sins. In other words if you deliberatly leave him and choose to sin Gods mercy will no longer cover you. At that point you would have to come back to God with a repentant heart. The really important question is what do you have to do to be saved. Many people say all you have to do is believe. And there are some scriptures which would seem to support this theory... such as Eph 2:8 "For by grace are ye saved through faith..." and others. Ultimatly we are saved by faith as no works we do can save us it is by our trust in him. The bible tells us to verify everything out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses, line upon line, precept upon precept. Take the whole bible and put it together not just a couple versus. There are some signs that follow true believers. Ja. 2 tells us that faith or believing without any works or evidence is not TRUE faith. Mk 1616 states "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not, shall be damned." Why becuase it's through our faith in him and his sacrifice that gives us access to God. Read on it talks about some of the characteristics of a believer. NOTE it says these signs SHALL follow them that BELIEVE.... In my name they shall cast out demons; they shall speak with new tounges;... Acts 1:8 says you receive power after you receive the Holy Ghost. If you read Acts 2 they spoke with other tounges after receiving the Holy Ghost. Every account of receiving the Holy Ghost that actually goes into depth tells of them speaking in other tounges. Jn. 3:1-8 Jesus speaks to Nicodemus telling him what we must do to be saved. Be born again of Water and of the Spirit. Baptism of the water, and baptism of the spirit he goes on states you cannot enter heaven unless you are born again baptized and receive the Holy Ghost ... he goes on in verse 8 saying the wind blows where it listeth and thou hearest the sounds thereof, but canst not see whence it cometh.... the wind blows where it will and we can't see it however!!! HOWEVER! you can hear it! so is everyone that is born of the spirit. When you recieve the Holy Ghost people wont be able to see it but they will hear it when you speak with other tounges. Many people choose to say it isn't essential ecspecially those who haven't experienced it. They want to say it's not necessary to speak in tounges to receive the Holy Ghost. Why? because they don't want to admit they may be wrong and may not have that relationship they proclaim. In Mt. 7:21 it says many will say to Jesus Lord Lord.... they will call him Lord and say weve done many wonderful things all in your name. They are people that went to church and did many things in the church. It goes on to say he turned them away because he "never knew them" ... there was never the intamacy that comes through the Holy Ghost. God requires a relationship. It's a must. This is what separates the wheat and tare. Those that aren't truly hungry for God won't receive the Holy Ghost becuase their motives are directed elsewhere. It's not hard or difficult. It simply requires a true hunger to know God. This is something you can't fake to God as he knows your heart. I would encourage anyone who believes all you have to do is believe, to double check it. It is your soul and don't just believe because thats what you've been taught and because you havnt experienced speaking in tounges. Maybe no one you know has. The disciples came to a group of believers in Acts and askd if they had the Holy Ghost ... they said we have not so much have heard whether there be any holy Ghost. Faith alone in Jesus doesn't give us the Holy Ghost or these believers would have had it. They already believed in Jesus enough to be baptized. There is so much more that many people don't experience and I would encourage anyone and everyone to look further into this with an open heart and mind. God bless and may you excell in wisdom and in Love. Casey |
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2 | Am I saved until Christ returns? | Phil 1:6 | BradK | 82800 | ||
Casey, You've stated "The bible tells us to verify everything out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses, line upon line, precept upon precept. Take the whole bible and put it together not just a couple versus" Ok, I'm in agreement with that. I'd like to ask you in all seriousness, do you practice ALL that is commanded in scripture, or just the charismatic gift of tongues? Let me illustrate. Look at the following from Matthew 10:5-15: "5 These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them: “Do not go in the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter any city of the Samaritans; 6 but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 “And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 “Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give. 9 “Do not acquire gold, or silver, or copper for your money belts, 10 or a bag for your journey, or even two coats, or sandals, or a staff; for the worker is worthy of his support. 11 “And whatever city or village you enter, inquire who is worthy in it, and stay at his house until you leave that city. 12 “As you enter the house, give it your greeting. 13 “If the house is worthy, give it your blessing of peace. But if it is not worthy, take back your blessing of peace. 14 “Whoever does not receive you, nor heed your words, as you go out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet. 15 “Truly I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city." These are things that Jesus COMMANDED! Do you practice them ALL literally, and if not, why? Speaking The Truth In Love, BradK |
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3 | Am I saved until Christ returns? | Phil 1:6 | 2 Ti 2:15 | 82818 | ||
This is my last entry on the subject so you can say what you will, the question I would ask you, is have you ever spoke in tongues or personally known anyone that has? Furthermore are the gifts of the spirit operating in your church? For they do in mine. 1Cr 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. The natural man no matter how great his wisdom (look at the Pharisee's) cannot comprehend or understand the things of God. The Holy Spirit Jn.16:13 states leads us into all truth. Without the baptism of the Spirit one can't have that witness. Ro. 8:16 says the Spirit bears witness with our spirit so I think that's pretty good test to me. On the subject of the Mormons, as a whole do they have the Holy Ghost? No. You never answered my question also about the gift of Faith. If I have faith in Christ does that mean I have the gift of Faith. I am saying the gift of Tounges isn't the same as the initial evidence of the Holy Ghost. Have you ever heard of Interpretation and tounges? I feel that this is just turning into an an argument so this will be my last entry. Feel free to comment for future readers. |
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4 | Am I saved until Christ returns? | Phil 1:6 | BradK | 82832 | ||
Casey, There is no attempt to turn this into an argument, my brother:-) I was merely trying to illustrate a point. A point you yourself, allude to in your own user profile, yet appear to ignore! "I don't claim to be a scholar I know I don't know everything and my knowledge is limited. I am not bound by my personal beliefs. I believe the sole authority in Truth is the bible. I know because I have believed something doesn't mean it is truth. We have to study the bible honestly with an open heart. My opinion is often we look through biast eyes without even realizing it. The majority of people would think they are open but if you ask God in prayer and listen to the spirit which (Jn16:13) will lead us in to all truth we may hear different. We are often to so busy trying to prove what we believe we stop listening what he wants us to see." Brother, according to what YOU state, I would anticipate that you'd be open to "study the bible honestly with an open heart." Or were these just words? See, I would expect someone who writes something of this nature, assuming it really comes from the heart, to practice what they say they truly believe. You obviously have come to the Forum with "biased eyes without even realizing it". That's ok, but the door swings both ways:-) As far as your claim "to not know everything",that's ok too.This Forum is an excellent source to learn and seek wisdom. But why do you then presume to have such a narrow and dogmatic stance with regard to tongues? Brother, I might add, that while we all have our "biases", to bring forth such a controversial topic and not expect opposition is foolish. I don't say these things to be harsh, but rather to encourage you to grow and seek wisdom (Prov. 18:15). You see my friend, "Iron sharpens Iron". Lastly, as our brother Joe has stated before, welcome to public discourse on the Forum. Speaking The Truth In Love, BradK |
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