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1 | there's many denomination yet 1 spirit | Eph 5:1 | Morant61 | 61633 | ||
Greetings JRdoc! Thanks for your response my friend! I hope this doesn't sound rude, but rather than pointing to other web sites, would you respond with your thoughts on my exgesis of 1 Cor. 14? I'm very familiar with the various stands on spiritual gifts, but I'm more concerned with what the text actually says, not what someone else says! :-) So, specifically, I would ask of you: a) Which Bible verse says that a singular 'tongue' is conterfeit? b) Why does Paul restrict the number of speakers, but not forbid the use of a 'tongue' if indeed it is a conterfeit? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | there's many denomination yet 1 spirit | Eph 5:1 | JRdoc | 61675 | ||
You missed the WHOLE point. Some tongues were counterfeit and other genuine and the two are both spoken about in 1 Cor 14. Paul spoke of tongues passing in 1 Cor 13, but did not forbid the true speaking in other tongues---of course after the gif disappeared than....... An exegesis of 1 Cor 14 is very long and that is why I gave you the Web Sites. Plus, it appears you have MacArthur's exegesis anyway (which is what I assert is correct.) If not let me know and I can post it...it will be several pages. BYW I apologize for the multiple posting...browser problem. |
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3 | there's many denomination yet 1 spirit | Eph 5:1 | Morant61 | 61710 | ||
Greetings JRdoc! I've had posting problems before as well! :-) My particular favorite is losing a long post! I understand your point my friend, but the great thing about this forum is the interaction between positions. Rather than simply posting a position, we can interact with others about the weakness and /or strengths of a particular position (using Scripture of course). So, in particular, which verses in 1 Cor. 14 mention a counterfeit tongue? The words 'counterfeit' or 'false' or 'fake' never occur in the passage in relation to a 'tongue' or 'tongues' - or at all I don't believe. Nor, is a 'tongue' or 'tongues' spoken on in a negative sense except for two things: a) The misuse of the gift. b) An uninterpreted 'tongue' or 'tongues' was not understood and thus prophesy was to be preferred, unless there was an interpretation. But, nowhere does the passage speak of a 'false tongue'. In fact, look at v. 26: "What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church." If a 'tongue' is conterfeit, as you have advocated, then why does Paul list it as one of the things which must be done for the strengthening of the church? In my opinion, this is an example of eisgesis. Dr. MacArthur has a position of spiritual gifts which he wants to advocate and has read into this passage that which would support his view. So, how would you counter these points? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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