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1 | there's many denomination yet 1 spirit | Eph 5:1 | EdB | 61593 | ||
RJdoc This isn't a list of men and seminaries that are inerrant. It is a group of men and seminars that stand in direct opposition to your statement. And of course dispensationalism has not always been the view held by the church. But to say dispensationalism is birthed in paganism is dishonest and should not be repeated. To put together the story which you have on tongues and present it as "fact" is equally dishonest and it too should not be repeated. If you had said it is my theory, or many people feel, or this is what I beleive, or from what I can piece together. I wouldn't have a problem and we wouldn't even be in this discussion. However you presented it as academic fact and it simply is not. EdB |
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2 | there's many denomination yet 1 spirit | Eph 5:1 | JRdoc | 61603 | ||
The Millenarian Revival - Part 6 The true church, according to Darby's thinking, because it is united to Christ, is heavenly. It has nothing to do with the corrupt ecclesiastical system called the "church." Likewise, because of its union with Christ, its present and future heavenly glory has nothing to do with the earthly lot of Israel. Darby writes: "The consciousness of my union with Christ had given me the present heavenly portion of my glory, whereas this chapter [Isa. 32] clearly sets forth the corresponding earthly part."25 It was Darby's doctrine of the church that became the catalyst for the rest of his system. Looking about upon the ecclesiastical scene of his day, Darby declared that the church is in ruins, so much so that it is diametrically opposed to the purpose for which it was instituted. Why? It is because the church, as a dispensation has failed and must suffer the judgment of God, just as has happened in every other dispensation. His hope for the church was that, like Israel, a remnant might be saved. Any attempt to repair the church was doomed to failure, since it is in ruins and it is not God's will that it be restored. Rather, believers are to forsake the existing church and assemble in the name of Christ. It is the Brethren who now have the Holy Spirit as one body and who are now the true representatives of Christ's body on earth. The church, according to Darby, did not come into existence until Pentecost. Even from the beginning it was never composed of "natural branches" (as were the Jews). Moreover, the church was not even revealed in the Old Testament. Israel had been an earthly kingdom with material promises and blessings. Christ came to fulfill the promises and ideals of that earthly kingdom but was rejected by His people. When that happened, God stopped the prophetic clock and instituted the church. Not until the rapture of the church will this clock start again, at which time God again will resume His purposes for His earthly people, Israel. Because the church, as the body of Christ, is heavenly, it must be raptured out of the earth in order that God's earthly program with Israel might be resumed. The fulfillment of God's promises to His earthly people must be in literal terms their calling and nature are earthly, their promises are earthly, and therefore the fulfillment must be with the literalism that accords with the earthly nature of the people and promises. Therefore, the establishment of the millennial Kingdom is the hope of Israel. All of God's actions with Israel have been directed towards that Kingdom. The nation will then occupy the land, the temple will be rebuilt (Ezek. 40-42), the sacrifices will be reinstituted (Ezek. 43, 44, 46), Christ will sit on David's throne, the nations shall acknowledge Israel to be the favored people of God, and Israel shall recognize Jesus as the Jewish Messiah. Once again the gospel of the Kingdom (first proclaimed in the Gospels) will be preached; only this time Israel shall believe it. All of this will happen in fulfillment of the covenants God has made with His people, especially His unconditional covenant made with Abraham.26 This bifurcation between Israel and the church in Darby's theology goes hand in hand with his dichotomous approach to hermeneutics. Many dispensationalists go to great lengths to emphasize that literal interpretation lies at the foundation of their system. But one does not have to read far to discover that dispensationalists employ literal hermeneutics inconsistently. It is their Israel/church dichotomy that lies at the root of their literalistic hermeneutics and not vice versa. The following quotations from Darby's Writings illustrate the point: First, in prophecy, when the Jewish church or nation (exclusive of the Gentile parenthesis in their history) is concerned, i.e., when the address is directed to the Jews, there we may look for a plain and direct testimony, because earthly things were the Jews' proper portion. And, on the contrary, where the address is to the Gentiles, i.e., when the Gentiles are concerned in it, there we may look for symbol, because earthly things were not their portion, and the system of revelation must to them be symbolical. When therefore facts are addressed to the Jewish church as a subsisting body, as to what concerns themselves, I look for a plain, common sense, literal statement, as to a people with whom God had direct dealing upon earth.27 |
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