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1 | Heaven or hell predetermined? | Eph 1:11 | DocTrinsograce | 223158 | ||
Dear lightedsteps, Please exegete the following verses, so that we may have the benefit of clearly understanding what you are saying. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. (Ephesians 1:3-6 NASB) In Him, Doc |
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2 | Heaven or hell predetermined? | Eph 1:11 | lightedsteps | 223173 | ||
Hi doc Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. (Ephesians 1:3-6 NASB) Having many years ago completed a very careful, and concise exegesis of these very same verses, I clearly found, and have believed the same ever since that time. Ephesians 1:3-6 Is speaking only about Christians, and their having been chosen by God, according to the good pleasure of His will. Grace be unto you lightedsteps |
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3 | Heaven or hell predetermined? | Eph 1:11 | DocTrinsograce | 223182 | ||
Dear lightedsteps, What you have given us is a conclusion, not an exegesis. Yet your conclusion is in harmony with my use of the passage in #223105. Consequently, I am confused about your objection. Unless you are looking at this passage from a hermeneutic based in Universalism, I cannot imagine why you would think that the first person plural pronouns in Ephesians 1:3-6 do not represent a subset of all humans: the sheep of His pasture (John 10:7-18; Romans 8:36; Hebrews 13:20). The logical conclusion is that there is another set of people who are not Christians. More than just a matter of rational thought, such distinction is all through the Scriptures: My people, heathen; sheep, goats; wheat, tares; light, darkness; good tree, bad tree; children of God, children of the devil; sons, illegitimate children; those who live according to the flesh, and those who live according to the spirit; slave, freeman; children of Sarah, children of Hagar; etc. etc. I sure wish you would take that book I offered. One of the authors was a continuationist ordained in a denomination that holds that position; not charismatic per se, but with the same presuppositions. (Still amazes me when I can't give away a book!) In Him, Doc |
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4 | Heaven or hell predetermined? | Eph 1:11 | azurelaw | 223186 | ||
You've got a lemon in return :-) [Our local slang (not dirty words), it means "being rejected" when giving offer] Shalom Azure |
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5 | Heaven or hell predetermined? | Eph 1:11 | DocTrinsograce | 223187 | ||
In the US a lemon in that context would be a slang term for an unreliable, used, automobile. :-) (cf Ecclesiastes 1:9... even in popular teaching!) |
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