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1 | Where is the line? | 2 Cor 9:7 | prayon | 22093 | ||
Greetings, I agree with part of what you are saying but how do you know that we were released from the 10 percent? We were not released from all of the rules and regulation of the OT. For example the 10 commandments. Those were rules of the OT and we have definetly not been released from them. Where do you draw the line? prayon | ||||||
2 | Where is the line? | 2 Cor 9:7 | jlpangilinan | 22139 | ||
Prayon, Do you mean we are not release from the law of Moses? I think it is not right when you mentioned we were released. Becuase until now of course when you observed the two great commandments whic is given by Jesus Christ you also observed all things in the ten commandments. But my question to you now is, do you really observed them as Jew people doing it, or you observing it like what Jesus Christ taught us? Questions: 1. Do you not do any work on sabbath day? 2. Do you really not eat pork and other meat or food that Jewish people not eat.? 3. If you see other people do work on sabbath day did you kill them or stoned them to death? Because according to law do any work on sabbath day, is punishable by death. If your answer is no! then you have been free from the law of moses which is include tithe. Just show me my friend, that tithe is not included in the law of Moses and we will agree. Jesus Christ observed the ten commandments different from the teaching of Moses,Jesus Christ do a lot of work on Sabbath day. and it punisable by death. Lu 4:31 And came down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and taught them on the sabbath days. Lu 6:1 And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his disciples plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing them in their hands. Lu 6:2 And certain of the Pharisees said unto them, Why do ye that which is not lawful to do on the sabbath days? When Jesus Christ do this things He free us from that law. Or you will say that Jesus Christ not observe the law? In addition my friend, (I hope we belong to same belived which is Christianity, I could be mistaken if one of us will belong to Jewish)i will put some passages here. Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. It was mentioned there on that passages The lord make a new covenant "Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers" do you think tithe or ten commandment are not included in that first covenant? If your answer is NO! then show me that they exclude tithe and ten commandments when they mentioned that. I hope I will not offended you in my kind of questions Thanks Johnny |
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3 | Where is the line? | 2 Cor 9:7 | glory777 | 22173 | ||
Johnny- I don't believe that prayon is saying that unless you tithe you are not righteous. I think what sheis saying is that it is a very good guideline. We are released from the law of Moses (Levitical law), but there are good guidelines in it. No, we don't have to keep holy the Sabbath, but it is good to have one day of the week to focus on God and give Him honor. And no, we don't have a dietary law, but it is good to fast with prayer also. I believe that if you are prayerfully considering what to give to the church, what Jesus commended (not COMMANDED), would be over 10 per cent (considering the widow's mite), but I don't see too many people giving all of their yearly income to the church! The amount mentioned most often in scripture is 10 per cent, so as a guideline, I would recommend it. Debbie |
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4 | Where is the line? | 2 Cor 9:7 | jlpangilinan | 22249 | ||
Hi Debbie, Thanks to your answer, if we really looking for a guideline why we have to create our own guideline. In the new testament Jesus Christ and His deciples gave us the guideline of giving which is love offering. I know that tithe is right in the time of Moses until Jesus Christ was born as human being. He made Himself a living sacrifice to free us our sins. He gave us spirit of Christianity; love, grace,charity and other good things. Jesus Christ only can justify us and not the law of Moses, I know you would agree on that. If the law of moses cannot justify that why we keep doing the things that cannot justified us which is tithe. It is not mean that we are not going to give, but there is a new guideline how to do it. If we observe one part of the law why not observing it at all. Mt 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. If we read that passages, it will tell us that we have to be consistent. If you observe law of tithing you must observe other things that include in to it. Why we are ready to exclude all of the law of Moses, but we cannot include tithe to them what is it in the tithe that we cannot give up? Debbie, my believed is open, if anyone can show me that Jesus taught tithe or required His deciple to give thier tithes, I am ready to embrace that teaching again. In addition, if the tithe is really a requirement Jesus Christ is the first one who going do it as an example. He made himself an example when he required himself to be baptized by John because it is important to be baptize, and baptism is including in His teaching. What I really mean is if tithe is really the requirements why Jesus Christ himself did not required himsef to be an example like what He did when He asked john to baptise Him. God bless, Johnny |
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