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1 | Releases from tithing 10 per cent? | 2 Cor 9:7 | jlpangilinan | 22418 | ||
Charis, You said, No, I will not get into a Bible 'tit for tat,' because I really don't know what you are trying to say, When you answer my note to (i dont recall) I am sure that You understand that my understanding of tithe is 10 percent. As a matter of fact the title of this question and answer is "release from 10 percent". What is tithe for you? it is 10 percent or not? If tithe is the same as love offering why Jesus Christ gave another guidelines. When you teach that tithe is an attitude of the heat what do you mean of this did you tell to co-churches that it is the same of love offering, or you tell to them that it is the ten percent of thier income. (i dont know if it is gross or net) You also mentioned that you dont understand what I am trying to say. Or you dont want to understand it. I gave the example of a widow, I know if you are a pastor (or whatsoever title that you have in your church)I know you read that passages and I know you understand it. That is the guideline, there is no require amount. You also mentioned "No, I will not get into a Bible 'tit for tat,'" Why? it seems you afraid that you cannot defend tithe using the scriptures, instead you want to convince me with your story. If I am in the discusion I am always try to defend my stand using scriptures and not using fairy tales. If you want to convince me, try to convince me using passages in the Bible. Like what I mentioned if you recall, if anyone can show me that Jesus Christ included tithe in His teaching, "I am ready to embrace that teaching again" This is my challenge to you now, show me. Our topic here is "TITHE" it is really in the Bible. I am interested in this topic because it is in the bible. I will not participating here in this forum for other things that not included in the bible. What is it you trying to prove? If you arguing me with your own knowledge, I will not be interested anymore, just prove me wrong using the scriptures and not with your own conclusions. Now if the tithe for you is not a ten percent, what is it for you? because if it is a ten percent, then you required people to give 10 percent of thier income. If you can answer what is tithe for you, is ten percent or not I think we can start a new discussion. But I really sure you understand it in the beggining of this discussion because it is the title of the question. My argument is very simple, but you did not try to disprove it. Again Here is my agrument: Please show me that Jesus Christ required himself to Give tithe. Or you can show me that He taught to His desciple to gave tithes. He required Himself to be baptize by John to set an example to us. If the tithe is a right guidelines why Jesus Christ dont do it as an example? Please disprove my stand using passages in the scriptures and not with your own. If you prove you are right using the scriptures then I would agree. When you taught people in the pulpit I am sure you taught them using the scriptures, why not trying to teach me using the scriptures? Just prove to me that I am wrong, but please use passages in the scriptures. I know you keep ignoring my argument, but I hope you are ready to answer it this time. I am not trying to offend you with the kind of questions, Just disprove them using the scriptures and I would agree. |
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2 | Releases from tithing 10 per cent? | 2 Cor 9:7 | charis | 22423 | ||
Dear Johnny, I am not trying to 'disprove' your statements. If I have heard you correctly, your church believes only in the 'love offering.' Is this correct? I do not say this is wrong. OK? I would, however, like to ask you, how often do you collect this offering? How often do you remind the people that they are required to give these offerings? What happens to those who do not give 'love offerings?' Does your church know the identity of those who 'give big' offerings? I'm just curious. By the way, if you ask me what Scripture I use when I teach New Testament giving, they are: "Let each one do just as he has purposed in his heart; not grudgingly or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver." 2 Corinthians 9:7 NASB, and... "And in His teaching He was saying: "Beware of the scribes who like to walk around in long robes, and like respectful greetings in the market places, and chief seats in the synagogues, and places of honor at banquets, who devour widows' houses, and for appearance's sake offer long prayers; these will receive greater condemnation. And He sat down opposite the treasury, and began observing how the multitude were putting money into the treasury; and many rich people were putting in large sums. And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which amount to a cent. And calling His disciples to Him, He said to them, "Truly I say to you, this poor widow put in more than all the contributors to the treasury; for they all put in out of their surplus, but she, out of her poverty, put in all she owned, all she had to live on." Mark 12:38-44 NASB. I then explain the Old Testament (our tutor) tithe and offering system. I say that we are no longer under the obligation of the Law, but it is a good basic measure that is wise and full of grace. The people in my church never hear 'appeals' for money, and know that they are not 'required' or 'watched' by anyone (but God). Please, stop 'challenging' me. I am weary! In Christ Jesus, charis |
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3 | Releases from tithing 10 per cent? | 2 Cor 9:7 | jlpangilinan | 22433 | ||
Charis, I dont know if the term colect is right. We are not regularly collect, any members are open they can give anytime they want. It is in them if they have something to offer. The only announcement that I heard that the leader of church asking help is when that convention center is about to finish. After that it is in the member if how often they want to help the church. And the church survive. Those who can help big we know that they are capable of doing it, there is no special treatment for them just like how important every member was. God bless, Johnny |
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4 | Releases from tithing 10 per cent? | 2 Cor 9:7 | charis | 22437 | ||
Dear Johnny, Mabuhay! I take it then that you have no regular time of offering during your times of fellowship. I have seen this method, and can appreciate it. I am pleased to know that there is no special recognition for those who have more money. Adiyos Blessings in Christ Jesus, charis |
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5 | Releases from tithing 10 per cent? | 2 Cor 9:7 | jlpangilinan | 22459 | ||
Charis, People can give during fellowship if they want, if they have no money it okay that what I mean of we are not collecting regularly. We can give every fellowship (sunday)but we are not require people. We are the one go to the love offering box if we have something to offer. Thanks again, God bless, Johnny If it is okay can I ask you what is your Nationality/where did you came from.By the way Hank write me a note when He knows that I came from Phil. |
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6 | Releases from tithing 10 per cent? | 2 Cor 9:7 | charis | 22505 | ||
Dear Johnny, If you click on my name 'charis' below, you can find out much about me. But I did not mention that I am an American citizen. I have spent most of my adult life in Japan, though, almost 30 years. Please give some information in your 'user profile,' too! Blessings in Christ Jesus, charis |
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