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1 | Did death come by Adam to the creation? | Rom 8:22 | flinkywood | 106117 | ||
How do we square Romans 8:19-22 with the fact that the creation has been subjected to death long before the fall of Adam? Add to this the following: "For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead." (1Co 15:21) Does this verse mean death for all things or just man alone? Colin |
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2 | Did death come by Adam to the creation? | Rom 8:22 | Morant61 | 106118 | ||
Greetings Colin! I'm not sure I understand your question. Where does Rom. 8:19-22 say that the creation was subjected to death long before the fall of Adam? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Did death come by Adam to the creation? | Rom 8:22 | flinkywood | 106129 | ||
Tim, I'm neither a young-earther nor a believer in the theory of evolution, and perhaps I'm missing something regarding the word "creation" (which Paul uses 4 times in Romans 8:19-22), which I take to mean all creation, from the beginning on, pre-Adam. "For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now." (Rom 8:20-22) Things were living and dying well before Adam; and since 1 Co 15:21 talks of death coming by a man, does this mean death to all living things, or to man alone? If so, how can we reconcile these verses (both in Romans and 1 Corinthians) with the very long history of life on earth? Please advise. Colin |
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4 | Did death come by Adam to the creation? | Rom 8:22 | Morant61 | 106132 | ||
Greetings Colin! Thanks for the clarification my friend! First of all, I don't believe that the age of earth or evolution has anything to do with this question. Rom. 8:20 simply says that creation 'was subjected to futility', but nothing is said at all about 'when' this occured. So, I would differ with your take on this verse. We have no record in Scripture of anything or anyone dying before Adam. So, I would content that the 'subjection' mentioned in Rom. 8:20 refers to what happened to creation after the fall. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Did death come by Adam to the creation? | Rom 8:22 | flinkywood | 106137 | ||
Tim, okay, but the fall is recent in earth history, so must we take a young-earth position in order to square the scientific evidence with the scripture evidence of 1 Cor 15:21, in which we learn that death came by Adam? Colin |
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6 | Did death come by Adam to the creation? | Rom 8:22 | Morant61 | 106141 | ||
Greetings Colin! I really don't want to get into an evolution type debate! :-) Let is suffice to say that one does not have to believe in a young earth to believe the Biblical record. However, no matter what science says, I will always trust Scripture. It says that death came through Adam, so death came through Adam as far as I am concerned! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | Did death come by Adam to the creation? | Rom 8:22 | flinkywood | 106157 | ||
Tim, I'm with you. Jesus cited Noah, so I believe in the flood -- I believe in the whole kit-and-kaboodle and take what befuddles me on faith -- but since the bible is true, I ask whether I'm missing something in the scriptures that might reconcile these verses to science. Or shall I be, as my pastor says, "an agnostic on this point? Colin |
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8 | Did death come by Adam to the creation? | Rom 8:22 | Morant61 | 106160 | ||
Greetings Colin! For someone who accepts evolution, I don't think that anything about Adam can be reconciled to their belief in evolution. If evolution is true, then Adam cannot have been the first man, death could not have come through him, and all could not have sinned in Adam. So, if you want to convice someone who doesn't believe the Bible that the Bible is true, you have a tough task on your hands! ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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9 | Did death come by Adam to the creation? | Rom 8:22 | flinkywood | 106176 | ||
Tim, Nope, I don't believe in evolution, it's a crock from top to bottom. Love did not come from a rock. Perhaps I'm being vague, so let me boil it down. I think human observation has established the the age of the universe as plus-12-billion years old, and the earth as at least a quarter as old as that. Therefore the 'days' of Genesis cannot be ltireal days, otherwise science, a gift of God, would contradict scripture. So, in light of the NT verses I cited, can we reconcile the evidence of scripture and the evidence of science? Colin |
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10 | Did death come by Adam to the creation? | Rom 8:22 | Morant61 | 106197 | ||
Greetings Colin! Personally, I feel no need to do so! :-) I just accept what Scripture specifically says! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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11 | Did death come by Adam to the creation? | Rom 8:22 | flinkywood | 106203 | ||
Thanks, Tim. I find science helps illuminate scripture. Colin |
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