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1 | The Spirit and the Word: How Related? | Rom 8:11 | Lionstrong | 30845 | ||
I'm afraid that if I answer your question Eagle One, you'll never get back to mine! I'll answer your question and see if you'll then answer mine. You ask, "What are your thoughts on John 1:1-4 and I John 1:1-3." Here they are: The Word in John 1:1-4 is the same word who became flesh and dwelt among us in John 1:14, that is, the Second Person of the Trinity. He created all things; and nothing made was made without him making it. Concerning 1 John 1:1-3: some feel the subject is Christ, others think the subject is the Gospel message. I belong to the latter group. Now, will you answer my question as you promised or delay further? Peace, Lionstrong |
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2 | The Spirit and the Word: How Related? | Rom 8:11 | Eagle One | 30861 | ||
Greetings Lionstrong, Thank you for your reply. Why did you think I would delay further? I was interested in your thoughts and insight regarding John 1:1-4 because of the way a portion of your original question was worded. When you asked "(Or by the indwelling Spirit do we need to consult God's Word?) The general question is what is the relationship between the Spirit and the Word? More specifically, does the indwelling of the Holy Spirit make the Word or parts thereof superfluous?" I am strongly impressed that John 1:1-2 is the best possible answer. As you said "The Word in John I is the Word who became flesh and dewelt among us in John 1:14. That is, the second person of the Trinity." In addition, please consider the following: In many translations we find the word "with" used. "The Word was with God" Example: 1:1 "In the beginning1 was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. 1:2 The Word was with God in the beginning." The word with is a preposition (prov). Am I a Greek scholar? By no means. However, I do enjoy reading word studies. In any case, "prov" implies not just proximity, but intimate personal relationship. M. Dods stated, "Prov means more than either metav or parav, and is regularly employed in expressing the presence of one person with another" ("The Gospel of St. John," The Expositor's Greek Testament, 1:684). Then a definite meaning for the term is reflected in the traditional rendering "the word was God." D. B. Wallace says, "Translations like the NEB and Moffatt are helpful in capturing the sense in John 1:1 that the Word was fully deity in essence just as much God as God the Father. The translation "what God was the Word was" is perhaps the most nuanced rendering, conveying that everything God is in essence, the Word is too." So to answer your question "One what? One God?" I'm comfortable with the description, "One essence". We know that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one. John I tells us that the Word is one with the Father and the Son. So they are all one. So, since the Holy Spirit dwells within you and I, we are able to be taught as we study by "The Teacher". John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you." So, in answer to your question, "If we have the Holy Spirit does that mean that we don't need the Word?" As far as I am concerned, without the Holy Spirit the Word would just be words. In I John 1, we don't find a discussion of the oneness. But I love the description, "The Word of Life." Once again, thanks for communicating. I look forward to more discussions. In Him, Eagle One |
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3 | The Spirit and the Word: How Related? | Rom 8:11 | Lionstrong | 30877 | ||
No Eagle One, We're not communicating yet, because I still don't know what you are talking about. You seem to be talking about a fourth person of the Godhead, while everyone else who responded to my question understood rightly that I was talking about the Scripture. So, are you getting bizzar on me, or am I just not understanding you? Peace, Lionstrong |
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