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1 | what do you understand by this verse | Rom 6:15 | chesi | 106188 | ||
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2 | what do you understand by this verse | Rom 6:15 | Jesusman | 106205 | ||
Hello, Under the Law, the only way to be declared justified is to follow the Law exactly, and precisely. Which, by the way, is impossible. Under Grace, however, one is justified through their faith in Jesus Christ and God. There isn't the strict adherence that is demanded by the Law. As a result, the belief circulated, which is still believed today, that you can be a christian, live like the devil, and still be saved. Paul, in his own unique way, is saying that that isn't so. Because you're not under the authority of the Law does not mean you can live like the devil. On the contrary, it means that you must live as one who belongs to christ. Paul goes into this in detail further in Romans. Jesus Loves You! Jesusman |
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3 | what do you understand by this verse | Rom 6:15 | kalos | 106213 | ||
In what chapter and verse does the Bible say "Under the Law, the only way to be declared justified is to follow the Law exactly, and precisely"? Chapter and verse, please. Romans 3:20 (ESV) For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. Romans 3:28 (ESV) For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. Galatians 2:16 (ESV) yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified. "...by works of the law no one will be justified." Do you get it? No one was ever saved by keeping the law perfectly, because no one except Jesus did so. There are not two ways of being saved -- by keeping the law in the OT and then by believing in the NT. Anyone and everyone who was ever saved was saved by faith -- by trusting and believing -- NEVER by keeping the Law. "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness." Romans 4:1-8 (ESV) What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? [2] For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. [3] For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness." [4] Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. [5] And to the one who does not work but trusts him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, [6] just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works: [7] "Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; [8] blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin." Romans 4:14 (ESV) For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void. |
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4 | what do you understand by this verse | Rom 6:15 | Jesusman | 106215 | ||
2 Corinthians 5:21 He made him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in him. James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. As you can see from these verses, one must keep the law in it's entirety in order to be declared without sin. In fact, these verses indicate that Jesus kept the law precisely and entirely. In order for Jesus to be declared one "who knew no sin", then he must've kept the law precisely and entirely. Since he did it, then it must be possible to be justified if the law is kept precisely and entirely. However, as you have pointed out, and as I stated briefly, such a task is impossible for us. Jesus Loves You! Jesusman |
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5 | what do you understand by this verse | Rom 6:15 | kalos | 106222 | ||
Jesusman: That may be, but the fact remains: There are not and there never were two ways of being saved or justified. There isn't one way to be justified in the OT and another --different -- way in the NT. In both time periods justification was/is by faith. "The just shall live by faith" is a quotation from the OT. I appreciate your participation in the forum. Blessings to you, kalos |
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6 | what do you understand by this verse | Rom 6:15 | Jesusman | 106225 | ||
If following the Law doesn't lead to justification, then why were the Israelites commanded to follow it? Justification isn't salvation. Salvation includes justification, not the other way around. Jesus needed to be declared justified, meaning without sin, in order to be the sacrifice for sin. Paul points that out numerous times. Now, how was Jesus declared sinless? 1) Did Jesus have faith in his own pending death, burial, and ressurrection, and declared justified by the grace of God? or 2) Did Jesus follow the Law and God's will perfectly and declared without sin as a result? Remember, Jesus was both God and Man. Due to being divine, he was born without a sin nature. Without that sin nature hindering him, Jesus could continue on with a life in perfect adherence to the Law. Thus becoming justified. After living a life of sinlessness and perfect adherence to the Law, Jesus died as the perfect payment for sin. Jesus Loves You! Jesusman |
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7 | what do you understand by this verse | Rom 6:15 | kalos | 106226 | ||
The fact remains: There are not and there never were two ways of being saved or justified. There isn't one way to be justified in the OT and another --different -- way in the NT. In both time periods justification was/is by faith. "The just shall live by faith" is a quotation from the OT. | ||||||
8 | what do you understand by this verse | Rom 6:15 | Jesusman | 106319 | ||
Stop and think about what you are saying. Then think about what I am saying. Justification is NOT salvation. It is different. It is only one aspect to Salvation. Salvation includes Justification, Sanctification, and redemption. Justification is being declared without sin. YES, there is only one way to be saved, that is through the grace of God. However, there are two ways to be declared Justified. A) Through strict and perfect adhence to the Law. The problem is that, as James points out, if you mess up on one tiny point, then you have broken the whole law. It is impossible for man to accomplish, but it is one way to be declared Justified. B) To have Justification placed on you by another who is genuinely Justified. That is what happens with man. Man is unable to adhere to the Law as perfectly as God wants. So, when a man repents, God extends the justification of Christ onto the repentant man. Jesus needed a way to be justified. To be declared without sin. As Paul put it in 2 corinthians, "he who knew no sin ..." Does it make sense for Jesus declared justified due to his own genuine justification being extended to himself? No it doesn't. What does make sense? That Jesus followed the Law as strictly as God desired, and was declared just as a result? Yes, that does make better sense. Jesus is the exception to the rule. Why? Because he was both God and Man. He was human in order to be a personal sacrifice for man. He was God in order to be without sin, and to follow God's law without sinning. No man in existance can ever accomplish what Jesus did. Only Jesus is capable of following the Law to justification. Jesus Loves You! Jesusman |
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