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1 | Governmental Authority? | Rom 13:1 | gracefull | 74406 | ||
Montag.. I suggest your answer is in verse one. God ordained the United States for His purpose. 'those which exist are established by God'. When you consider the USA consider the good which far outweighs the bad. This country has prospered to propigate the gospel worldwide. It is deterioriating because God and His word is being compromised. Remember one thing (from the heart and I believe I have the Spirit) the enemy is Satan and his demonic army. If you are unhappy with things here, begin to fast and pray. There is no other country in the world I would rather be. God bless |
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2 | Governmental Authority? | Rom 13:1 | Montag | 74412 | ||
but what does that say about our founding fathers? they "resisted authority" (v.2) and therefore must have "opposed the ordinances of God" (v.2) the result of which is that they "will receive condemnation upon themselves." (v.2) i pray every day for this great country i live in... i just don't see how the birth of this country (USA) could have been God ordained if Rom 13 is to be believed. i know that God can use believers inside any country regardless of the actions of it's leaders and i believe THAT is the reason the United States has been an historical Christian witness to the world... not necessarily that we were/are a "Christian" nation. still searching, Montag |
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3 | Governmental Authority? | Rom 13:1 | mbooker | 74416 | ||
Hi Montag Your question is VERY interesting... and here is the first passage of scripture that came to mind: The chief captain commanded him to be brought into the castle, and bade that he should be examined by scourging; that he might know wherefore they cried so against him. And as they bound him with thongs, Paul said unto the centurion that stood by, Is it lawful for you to scourge a man that is a Roman, and uncondemned? When the centurion heard that, he went and told the chief captain, saying, Take heed what thou doest: for this man is a Roman. Then the chief captain came, and said unto him, Tell me, art thou a Roman? He said, Yea. And the chief captain answered, With a great sum obtained I this freedom. And Paul said, But I was free born. Then straightway they departed from him which should have examined him: and the chief captain also was afraid, after he knew that he was a Roman, and because he had bound him. Acts 22:24-29 Could we say Paul was resisting authority in this passage? My answer would be he was resisting injustice (but I could be wrong! :) ). Your question has prompted in me this question: Was it wrong for my foreparents (those slaves that fought, in whatever way, against slavery) to resist the bondage and degregation heaped upon them, ie resist the authority that said they could not be free, could be sold, beaten, separated from their families, were less than human? Was it wrong for those of the civil rights era, to 'fight' for equal rights? Were they sinning when they resisted the authority that told them they could not vote, had to sit in the back of the bus, could only drink out of the 'colored' water fountains, had to attend segregated schools with inferior materials, were not entitled to equal rights/protections under the law? I believe it is good to also consider vv3-5 in conjunction with vv1-2: For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. NASB Did the founding fathers, my foreparents and those of the civil rights era sin against God? I'm not sure either... but hopefully others with be able to shed some more light on the question. Yours in Christ Meredith |
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4 | Governmental Authority? | Rom 13:1 | EdB | 74421 | ||
Meredith I think rather than say Paul was resisting authority he was using the rights granted him by that authority. I think it was the same with the equal rights movement. The groups that used the rights afforded to them by the US Constitution prevailed, rather than those that choose to resist the Government. We saw the same thing in the Vietman war protests. The groups that resisted made national news and may be said to have raised the social conscience but they had little success in changing anything. However the groups that used the rights and liberties afforded by the Goevernment were the ones that wrought change. Montag makes an interesting arguement and one that I think should be further examined in the light of the Word. EdB |
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5 | Governmental Authority? | Rom 13:1 | Montag | 74438 | ||
thank you EdB. i would definitly appreciate the insight of the knowledgeable people on this forum to help in exploring this issue. Blessings, Montag |
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6 | Governmental Authority? | Rom 13:1 | Searcher56 | 74457 | ||
I firmly believe we violated Scripture when we rebelled (Roms 13) ... there were other options. | ||||||