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1 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | Robert Nicholson | 33415 | ||
Brother Curt: Just a short reply for now. I appreciate your fairness in comparing our thoughts on God's word. In 1 Cor. 10:32 we read about 3 groups of people in the world at the time of Paul and extends even to now. "Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:" When we study the purposes of God in his Grace we need to keep in mind the 3 groups: The Jew or Israel refers to God's chosen people through whom he choose to work throughout the old testament. He gave them prophecies which pointed to the coming Messiah who is their redeemer. However, we find that when he came into the world the Jews as a nation rejected him. We find that they as a nation has been set aside, but God is not finished with them yet as you have pointed out. He will turn back to Israel after this dispensation of Grace is over. The Gentiles or pagan nations were outside the promises of God and yet God in his eternal mercy and grace had a plan for them. He turned to the Gentile nations after the death of Christ. We find that the apostles preached the gospel to Israel first, to Samaria and then to Gentiles. In this dispensation of Grace God is dealing in grace with individuals from all backgrounds "for there is no difference". The Church of God as described in 1 Cor.12 consists of all believers who have been saved from the cross onward. I agree that God is all knowing, it is difficult for the finite to comprehend the infinite. God's sovereign will and plan will come to pass. The gift of eternal life is all of God. It was his plan and purpose to save those who are lost. He speaks to us by his spirit, through his people and through life's circumstances. He prepares our heart until like the jailor of old we exclaim "What must I do to be saved" At that point God by his spirit reveals to us the truth that Christ died for our sins on the cross at this point we rest in him. God bless Robert |
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2 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | Curtnsally | 33428 | ||
Thanks Robert for your patience and time. I am not sure I can agree with the dispensation view, but you have done it justice. For now, in my feeble brain, it remains juxtaposed with the predestination view which is obviously a struggle as well. There is likely truth in both views, and this is what I have been seeking to understand. Not there yet! What I do know is that God has provided a means of salvation for you and me. The Glory belongs to Him, whether or not we understand the how and why. Amen? Amen! Blessings Curt |
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3 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | Morant61 | 33453 | ||
Greetings Curt! If you are interested in a postion which I think does justice to both election and free will, I would recommend the book, "Elect in the Son: A Study of the Doctrine of Election" by Robert Shank - published by Westcott Publishers. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | Curtnsally | 33500 | ||
Tim Thanks for the info! Fyi, I opened a thread with the header "Thoughts on Romans 9". Ben (benjamite) and I wanted to discuss the concepts of election and free will. He is seminary trained, and I wanted to get feedback at that level. I know this is a hot topic, but Ben and I have agreed to try and keep the fray civil among all respondents. (I wish there were a way in this forum to have limited group discussions, but dont see how). Anyway, I've read a number of your posts and have appreciated your comments. I thought you might want to join us on this discussion. Any interest? Blessings Curt |
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5 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | Morant61 | 33504 | ||
Greetings Curt! I'm always interested in a good discussion! :-) And, I always "try" to be civil! :-) Romans 9 is one of my favorite chapters, mainly because I did a 4 credit independent study on Rom. 9-11 in college. Whew! I was either very brave or very stupid! :-) But, I learned a lot and really enjoyed myself. I'll try to input where I can, but I may just read the first few! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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