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1 | Romans 10:9: is it too simple? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 73878 | ||
If you are right, unless God gives that empowering grace to everyone, then He is a respector of persons. God forbid! What the Bible says is that God desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. He so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son... Jesus tasted death for all men. The question to answer is why aren't all men saved? There are only two choices. Either God IS a respector of persons -- hence the perverted doctrine of election -- or God extends His grace to all men, and men of their free will choose to accept or reject. Behold, I stand at the door and knock... God wants everyone to be saved, and everyone could potentially be saved because the sacrifice has been made for them too. It is up to each man to hear the Gospel and obey it. "Lord, who has believed our report?" Ephesians 2:8,9 shows that God's grace reaches down and saves men of faith. Grace and faith are not the gift of God of which Paul speaks. Grace, the unmerited favor of God, is the gift. It is up to each man to choose. Good day. |
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2 | Romans 10:9: is it too simple? | Rom 10:9 | John Reformed | 73924 | ||
Dear You said: "If you are right, unless God gives that empowering grace to everyone, then He is a respector of persons. God forbid!" We can misunderstand the meaning of a particular verse when we remove it from it's context. Acts 10:34 Opening his mouth, Peter said: "I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality," Notice that verse 34 is modified by the verse which follows it: Acts 10:35 but in every nation THE MAN WHO FEARS Him AND DOES WHAT IS RIGHT is welcome to Him." The 10th chapter of acts teaches that it is no longer among the Jews alone that the call of God is being sent t, but the gentiles also have now been included. Furthermore, there are many examples that prove that God makes choices between persons, not based on the person himself, but in accordance with God's will alone: Deut 7:6 "For you are a holy people to the LORD your God; the LORD your God has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth" ; 1 Chr 16:13 "O seed of Israel His servant, Sons of Jacob, His chosen ones!" Mark 13:20 "Unless the Lord had shortened those days, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect, whom He chose, He shortened the days." I suggest you do a word search on "choose or chosen". It may alter your percetion on just how God rules over His creation. A word search on "elect" may also temper your belief that it is a "perverted" doctrine. You also said: "God wants everyone to be saved, and everyone could potentially be saved because the sacrifice has been made for them too. It is up to each man to hear the Gospel and obey it. "Lord, who has believed our report?" See my post ID# 52083 on 2nd Peter. I argue that the pronoun "any" (God is not willing that any should perish...) refers to any of the elect. Your closing point: "Ephesians 2:8,9 shows that God's grace reaches down and saves men of faith" ROM 3:10-12 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one." Hope this helps. John |
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3 | Romans 10:9: is it too simple? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 74352 | ||
Dearest John, You can't have it both ways. Either man has a say in his salvation or it is completely God. The modern idea of a Sovereign God who handpicks some for salvation, others left behind, is completely false. You talk about context and then jump to the book of Acts. Huh? What you believe about the doctrine of election is false and perverts the very idea of an impartial, unbiased God. God extends the hand to every sinner, and it is incumbent upon each to reach up by faith and receive the gift. No other way makes a bit of sense. |
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4 | Romans 10:9: is it too simple? | Rom 10:9 | Hank | 74372 | ||
Of course, God offers the plan of salvation and salvation is thus of God. But man does have a "say" about it, that is, he can accept or reject God's plan of salvation. He can obey the gospel or spurn it. I don't accept any such doctrine as irresistible grace. Thus I don't view your post as being unreasonable or unscriptural at all; in fact, I tend to agree with it. [And, incidentally, as an aside to Calvinists, please don't bother to attack my post and show me wherein I'm so off base. I've heard your arguments time and time again and choose not to debate the issue. You may rebut if you wish, but I will not respond.] --Hank | ||||||