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1 | Are we presenting the gospel scripturaly | Acts 2:38 | BradK | 173208 | ||
Dear kosheiman, Unless you fail to understand the Book of Romans- the theology of the NT- the conclusion you reach would be valid. Nowhere does Paul teach that salvation is by any means other than faith (Rom. 4:3, Gal.2:16, Eph. 2:8-9, Tit. 3:7). My reading and understanding of Eph. 2:8 shows it is through (dia) faith! I'm missing the definite article. Why does Paul commend those in Heb. 11 for their faith instead of being water baptized? As you'll note Noah was in the the Ark- dry! Those who were "really" baptized and got wet, drowned! The context of 1 Peter 3 is dealing with the example of Christs' suffering. Salvation has always been by grace through faith. Hard Sayings of the Bible makes this point: "As Noah was saved through water, so is the Christian: “Baptism now saves you.” How does baptism save a person? The answer is “by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.” In other words, baptism is a union with Christ, and, united with Christ, we are carried with him to resurrection life. Paul has similarly used baptism as the point of union with Christ (Rom 6:4–11; Col 2:12). The key is that, as in 1 Peter 1:3, it is being joined to Jesus that saves. Without Jesus and his resurrection, baptism would be useless." The late C.H. Spurgeon succinctly states: "We ourselves are not dubious on this point, we protest that persons are not saved by being baptized. In such an audience as this, I am almost ashamed to go into the matter, because you surely know better than to be misled. Nevertheless, for the good of others we will drive at it. We hold that persons are not saved by baptism, for we think, first of all that it seems out of character with the spiritual religion which Christ came to teach, that he should make salvation depend upon mere ceremony. Judaism might possibly absorb the ceremony by way of type into her ordinances essential to eternal life; for it was religion of types and shadows. The false religions of the heathen might inculcate salvation by a physical process, but Jesus Christ claims for his faith that it is purely spiritual, and how could he connect regeneration with a peculiar application of aqueous fluid? I cannot see how it would be a spiritual gospel, but I can see how it would be mechanical, if I were sent forth to teach that the mere dropping of so many drops upon the brow, or even the plunging a person in water could save the soul." You cannot simply pull scriptures out of a hat to develop doctrine my freind The Book of James is not the doctrinal treatise of the NT that lays out how we are saved. Again, I refer you to Romans! Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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2 | Are we presenting the gospel scripturaly | Acts 2:38 | koscheiman | 173236 | ||
We are saved by the gospel of Jesus Christ According to 1 cor 15 that is the death, burial, and resurrection. Likewise according to Paul when we are baptised we re-enact the gospel and are raised to a new life Try reading Rom 6 for a discussion of baptism. | ||||||