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1 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113746 | ||
Yes, you receive the Spirit and are saved during baptism in water. Repentance and water baptism in his name are your response by faith to the gospel. God does all the work. By grace he forgives you and gives you the Holy Spirit. Water baptism is simply an act of faith whereby you are recieving something from God, not a work to earn something. Col. 2:12 explains in water baptism Christ is spiritually circumcising you. Roman 6:3 shows it is not a ritual but an actual participation in his death, burial and resurrection. | ||||||
2 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | Morant61 | 113752 | ||
Greetings Arrow1! In light of your post, how would you explain Acts 10:47? This group clearly received the 'gift of the Holy Spirit' and spoke in tongues before they were baptized in water. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113847 | ||
Quite easily. Let's start in John 20:22. Jesus gives them the Holy Spirit. Now Acts 1:3 He spends 40 days teaching them. I submit the 12 Apostles are saved. Now go to Pentecost. They are filled with the Holy Spirit and speak in tongues. Did reception of the Spirit save them or was it to enable them to tongue speak. Obviously they were already saved, it simply gave them the ability to speak in tongues. Now go to Acts 11:4, notice the word "precisely". Now go to v.15, as he "began" to speak the Holy Spirit fell. Surely Cornelius was not saved before he heard the message and was able to repent and believe. Notice Peter said in v.15, the Spirit came on "them"(cornelius) the same way it came on "us"(12 apostles) at the beginning. Not the same way it came on the 3,000, or Phillip, or Simon, or the Samarians, or the Ethiopian, or any of the other thousands who were being saved. It came on Cornelius the same way the 12 Apostles received it at Pentecost. Not to save them but to get peoples attention and to give them the abililty to speak in tongues. The Holy Spirit coming on Cornelius's household was to show that God was opening up the Gospel to the Gentiles. That was the whole purpose of Peter's dream and this story. God was now granting the Gentiles the opportunity to hear the Gospel and repent. Preaching the Gospel to the Gentiles was a huge obstacle to overcome for the Jewish Christians, thus God did something miraculous. Just like at Pentecost, He was ushering in the new church with power. Notice they were required to respond to the Gospel by being baptized in Jesus name, the same way everyone else responded when they heard the message. |
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4 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | Searcher56 | 114321 | ||
You proved Tim's point and mine Cornelius was saved BEFORE they were baptized with water ... the reason for speaking in tongues was to show the Jews that the Gentiles were equal (Gal 3:26-29). | ||||||
5 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 114341 | ||
Yes we are all equal in that God loves us all equally, the gospel is to be preached to all, and we all have the right to accept or reject it. The whole point of that story is "mainly" that up until that time the gospel was only preached to the Jews and now it was open to Gentiles as well. Read the context of the entire story. The jewish christians were really "struggling" with allowing Gentiles into the church. It was a BIG deal. Hence Peter's dream and God doing something really miraculous just like at Pentecost. I asked the question before, did the Holy Spirit save the 12 apostles at Pentecost or were they already saved? Again, Gal. 3:26-27, they were "baptized into Christ". |
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