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1 | Repent and Baptism for same number? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 77968 | ||
Are the people being told to be baptized in Acts 2:38 the same number, no more or less, than those being told to repent? Are the same people that the Holy Spirit fell on in Acts 2:3 the same number, no more or less, as those whom it appeared to? |
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2 | Repent and Baptism for same number? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 79168 | ||
1. American Bible Union Version- unto the remission of your sins 2. Amplified NT- for the forgiveness of your sins 3. Anderson- In order to the remission of your sins 4. Authentic (Schomfield)- for the forgiveness of your sins 5. Authorized version (KJV)- for the remission of sins 6. Berry's interlinear- for remission of sins 7. Centenary Translation- for the remission of sins 8. Challomer Rheims- for the forgiveness of sins 9. Douay -for the remission of sins 10. Emphasized version- into the remission of sins 11. Emphatic Diaglot- for the remission of sins 12. English Revised- unto the remission of sins 13. Englishman's Greek NT- for the remission of sins 14. Ferrar Fenton- for the remission of sins 15. First German Bible- for (in order to, unto) the forgiveness 16. French Translation -in order to obtain the remission of sins 17. Geneva Bible -for the remission of sins 18. German Translation- (for, unto) in order to forgiveness of sins 19. Good News for Modern man- in order to have your sins forgiven 20. Goodspeed -in order to have your sins forgiven 21. Hackett (commentary)- in order to the forgiveness of sins 22. Haweis (1795 AD) -for the remission of your sins 23. Indian Translation- in order to the forgiveness of sins 24. Italian Translation- into the remission of sins 25. Jerusalem Bible- for the forgiveness of your sins 26. Knox -to have your sins forgiven 27. Literal Translation (Young) -to the remission of sins 28. Living Bible- for the forgiveness of sins 29. Living Oracles -in order to the remission of sins 30. Macknights Translation -in order to the remission of sins 31. Modern English- for a release of your sins 32. Modern Speech -with a view to the remission of sins 33. Moffatt -for the remission of sins 34. H.B. Montgomery (1924)- for the remission of your sins 35. Moulton's Modern Reader's- unto remission of sins 36. New American Standard- for the remission of your sins 37. New Catholic Version- for the forgiveness of sins 38. New English Bible- for the forgiveness of your sins 39. New International version- for the forgiveness of your sins 40. New King James Version- for the remission of sins 41. New World Translation- for the forgiveness of sins 42. NT in the Basic English- for the forgiveness of sins 43. Phillips Modern English- so that you may have your sins forgiven 44. Revised Standard Version- for the forgiveness of your sins 45. Rothermham- unto the remission of your sins 46. Spanish Translation- for the purpose of remission of your sins 47. Syriac Version- for the remission of sins 48. Twentieth Century Translation- for the forgiveness of your sins 49. Verkuyl (Burkeley Version)- for the remission of sins 50. Warrell's Translation-unto remission of your sins 51. Wesley's Translation- for the remission of sins 52. Weymouth- for the remission of your sins 53. Williams- that your sins may be forgiven 54. Wycliffe (1308)- into the remission of youre synnes Disciplerami |
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3 | Possible that the all scholars wrong? | Acts 2:38 | sniper | 79267 | ||
Disciplerami, That is an amazing list. 54 versions with the same translation! I was just as amazed to see the reaction to the list. One who posts here stated that the translations have failed us! Is it possible that all the scholars who translated those many versions were all wrong? God bless. |
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4 | Possible that the all scholars wrong? | Acts 2:38 | Ray | 79274 | ||
Hi sniper, The translation of those words is not the focus of your discussion. No one has doubted that these words are translated correctly. What your discussion revolves around is whether or not we are to "repent for the forgiveness of sins" or whether we are to "repent and be baptized for the forgiveness of sins". Why are you trying to say that these words "for the forgiveness of sins" are being disputed? Let me offer one thing to consider: 1) The manuscripts do not differ on these words translated "for the forgiveness of sins". 2) The manuscripts do differ in that there is one insertion after the word "Repent". That insertion is translated "he says". a) That shows to my mind that this has been discussed before and that someone had made this insertion to show the importance of this subject of repentance. b) An insertion or difference in manuscripts also alerts me to look at the number of pronouns of Deity. 2) Another difference in manuscripts is the inclusion of the possessive sins. "For the forgiveness of [your] sins". a) This shows to my mind that we each have to repent (change your mind) about our sin(s). b) What is the sin that pierced them to the heart? What is the sin that bothered their consciences? It was the sin of crucifying this Jesus. c) When we have the gift of the word of truth, having this knowledge that this One was both Lord and Christ, then we have received the *holy *spirit. It is only then that we desire water baptism as a believer. 3) When we have differing manuscripts I look to the number of pronouns concerning Deity. Personally, that is why I put holy spirit in lower case and why I go with the NASB in their rendering "as many as the Lord our *God shall call to *Himself". This Jesus is both Lord and Christ. This Jesus is the Lord our God. John 10:30, "*I and the *Father are one." Ephesians 1:15, "by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments, contained in ordinances, that in *Himself *He might make the two into one man, thus establishing peace,..." Ephesians goes on and says that we have our access in one Spirit to the Father. Why if we have begun in the Spirit do you stress the need for water for the forgiveness of your sin? From the heart, Ray |
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5 | Possible that the all scholars wrong? | Acts 2:38 | sniper | 79291 | ||
Ray, Matt 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:41 So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. Acts 8:36 As they went along the road they came to some water; and the eunuch *said, "Look! Water! What prevents me from being baptized?" Acts 8:38 And he ordered the chariot to stop; and they both went down into the water, Philip as well as the eunuch, and he baptized him. Acts 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he regained his sight, and he got up and was baptized; Acts 22:16 'Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.' Rom 6:3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Rom 6:4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. Gal 3:27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. Col 2:12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 1 Pet 3:21 Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you--not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience--through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, God bless. |
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6 | Possible that the all scholars wrong? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 79304 | ||
Greetings, The UPPERCASE letters in the following represent the strained attempts to get around water baptism. Matt 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Acts 2:41 So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Acts 8:36 As they went along the road they came to some water; and the eunuch *said, "Look! Water! What prevents me from being baptized?" [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE, oops, er, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE GOSPEL BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY PHILIP PREACHED BAPTISM. THE EUNUCH MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT BAPTISM AT SOME OTHER TIME] Acts 8:38 And he ordered the chariot to stop; and they both went down into the water, Philip as well as the eunuch, and he baptized him. [SAME AS LAST ANSWER] Acts 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he regained his sight, and he got up and was baptized; [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Acts 22:16 'Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.' [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Rom 6:3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Rom 6:4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Gal 3:27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] Col 2:12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] 1 Pet 3:21 Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you--not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience--through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, [THAT'S NOT WATER BAPTISM BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE WORD 'WATER' THERE] God bless. Disciplerami |
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