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1 | Holy Spirit evidence of Salvation? | Acts 2:38 | Morant61 | 51517 | ||
Greetings Grace and Truth! My friend, you either keep ignoring my point or aren't understanding it. Don't use the words 'salvation', 'believed', ect.... Acts 2:38 says (under your interpretation) that one must: 1) Repent, 2) Be baptized, and then they will receive; 3) Forgiveness of sins, and 4) The Gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 10:45 does not mention repentance. Nor does it mention salvation, ect.... However, it does mention 'the gift of the Holy Spirit' and 'baptism'. But, in Acts 10:45, they receive the Gift of the Holy Spirit BEFORE they are baptized. This is a direct contradiction of your interpetation of Acts 2:38, as evidenced by every web site that I have read which supports baptismal regeneration trying to explain Acts 10:45 away in some fashion or another. Also, either your understanding of James is wrong or there is a major contradiction in Scripture, for Paul says of Abraham: "What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, discovered in this matter? 2 If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. 3 What does the Scripture say? ‘‘Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” 4 Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. 5 However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness. 6 David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:" - Rom. 4:1-6. Now, was Paul wrong or right! Was Abraham justified by faith or by works? As I've shown you from the context, James is not dealing with works saving a person, but rather, he is dealing with the fact that a person who is saved will work. There is a difference. James is in complete agreement with Paul: Works do not save, but those who are saved will work. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Holy Spirit evidence of Salvation? | Acts 2:38 | Grace and Truth | 51523 | ||
Here again you say who's wrong and who's right! The bible is right! When Paul recounts his conversion He states Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. What are we to do with this plain statement of scripture. GET MY POINT, CLEAR! Do you believe that Paul is speaking of water baptism, when he speaking of works? I notice in listening to what you were saying about faith only, and how you use the latter part of Mark 16:16 you say that baptism is not mentioned in the text, well baptism in water is not mentioned the text you are refering to no where. So how do you come to such conclusions on the subject of baptism in water? When we look at Romans 3,4,5,6 we must tie all of it together to understand what is being conveyed to the reader, Romans 6:1-9 Paul in verse 3,4,5 gives us good information on baptism and what it does for us, let me stop here and ask you a question once again, did water baptism come from God or is this some man made doctrine? |
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3 | Holy Spirit evidence of Salvation? | Acts 2:38 | Morant61 | 51554 | ||
Greetings Grace and Truth! Your question is easy! Baptism is commanded by Christ, but man has made up the belief that we are saved by being baptized! :-) Here is what the Bible Knowledge Commentary says about Acts 22:16: *********************************************** Two questions revolve about this verse. First, when was Paul saved—on the Damascus Road or at Judas’ house? Several factors suggest he was saved on the Damascus Road: (1) The gospel was presented to him directly by Christ (Gal. 1:11-12), not later by Ananias. (2) Already (Acts 22:10) Paul said he had submitted in faith to Christ. (3) Paul was filled with the Spirit before his baptism with water (9:17-18). (4) The Greek aorist participle, epikalesamenos, translated calling on His name refers either to action which is simultaneous with or before that of the main verb. Here Paul’s calling on Christ’s name (for salvation) preceded his water baptism. The participle may be trans lated, “having called on His name.” Second, what then do the words wash your sins away mean? Do they teach that salvation comes by water baptism? Because Paul was already cleansed spiritually (see comments in preceding par.), these words must refer to the symbolism of baptism. Baptism is a picture of God’s inner work of washing away sin (cf. 1 Cor. 6:11; 1 Peter 3:21) ********************************************** Now, you say that Rom. 4 and Eph. 2:8-9 do not apply to baptism, but haven't you yourself said that they are a 'work of obedience' or a 'work of faith'? Where does Rom. 4 or Eph. 2:8-9 say that only some kinds of works don't save us? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Holy Spirit evidence of Salvation? | Acts 2:38 | Grace and Truth | 51808 | ||
Tim, The thing to remember is, the Holy Spirit was speaking through Ananias, these are the words of the Holy Spirit! Your commentary cannot change God's word, and if Saul was already saved as your commentary says, didn't the Holy Spirit already know it? And why would the Holy Spirit tell Saul to do what was already done? That doesn't make sense at all. God knows more than we do on this issue, we need to trust him and his word. "arise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord" is real, believe it and teach it. This is something that you can't get out of! | ||||||