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1 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | jlhetrick | 159013 | ||
Hello Doc, Your using Mark's rational now which is appropriate for understanding this passage. But you didn't attempt to answer my question. You write: "People make the dreams and visions the point of this passage." I argue that you attempt to disregard the issue of dreams and visions in this passage although God and Peter felt it important to include them. It's simply that I just don't follow your argument as rational and more importantly complete. In an earlier post you wrote: "Peter states clearly that this passage is fulfilled in Pentecost!". He certainly does not state it at all, much less clearly. Without going back to read at this time, I believe Mark has sufficiently made that point. But to restate it in short; Peter states very clearly that Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; (KJV) No mention of completed work or total fulfillment. As Mark correctly pointed out, Peter was addressing a specific question and/or accusation regarding a specific behavior (speaking in other languages). Peter, under God's direction, quotes the whole prophecy, why? Is it not reasonable to conclude that God's intention here was to not only explain what was being observed but to also reemphasize what is to come? Also, I realize this is a whole other topic, but just as a side note. Where does this day of pentacost fall in relation to the biblcal reference "the last days"? I will have another question based on your answer to this. Regarding the careful study of what Peter says after quoting Joel, I have considered it and studied it. Maybe I'm missing something but I get nothing that suggest to me that anything debated here has been completed in full. Sincerely, Jeff |
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2 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | kalos | 159032 | ||
You ask: Where does this day of Pentecost fall in relation to the biblcal reference "the last days"? Before this question can be answered, we need to define what is meant by the term "last days". In Acts 2:17 the phrase "'last days' refers to the present era of redemptive history from the first coming of Christ (Heb 1:2; 1 Pet 1:20; 1 John 2:18) to his return." (p. 1636, MacArthur Study Bible, Word Publishing, 1997). Following are NT passage that include the term "last days" or "last times(s)". And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God,I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: Acts 2:17 (KJV) Hebrews 1:2 (KJV) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 1 Peter 1:20 (KJV) Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 1 John 2:18 (KJV) Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. Grace to you, Kalos |
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3 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | jlhetrick | 159065 | ||
Hi Kalos, Thanks for responding. I was attempting to get a better perspective on Doc's view of "last days" in order to better understand where he is coming from. But he doesn't respond directly to questions that challenge his point. Anyway, Mark d seyler did a fine job of putting the issue in this thread in biblical context by letting the bible speak for itself and not attempting to offer a self-declared authority over the topic at hand. Thanks again for the response. Sincerely, Jeff |
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