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1 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | Robin Hass | 157780 | ||
When on vacation recently in Malta, following in the footsteps of the Apostle Paul - Acts 27-28, I visited an Evangelical fellowship: http://www.fgpc.org.mt/bible.htm The pastor was bi-lingual and I was surprised to find out that the Maltese people, a Semitic race, Syro-Phoenicians I think, refer to God in their native 'barbarous' tongue, Malti as Allah! I thought I had heard in the past that the name Allah is a NOT a generic name for God but the name of a demon, and there is some story behind the name. Any thoughts? Furthermore, I believe that Islam is a non-saving false religion but that their concept of God/Allah (Creator) is still the real God. I would say that our God is the same God as the Deists, or the Greek philosophers but that they have no access to him nor any way of appeasing His wrath. Is this correct? Robin |
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2 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | kalos | 157783 | ||
"Yahweh...is My name forever." Ex 3:15 God also said to Moses, "Say this to the Israelites: Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever; this is how I am to be remembered in every generation. Ex 15:3 The Lord is a warrior; Yahweh is His name. Ex 33:19a He said, "I will cause all My goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim the name Yahweh before you." Ex 34:5 The Lord came down in a cloud, stood with him there, and proclaimed [His] name Yahweh. De 28:58 "If you are not careful to obey all the words of this law, which are written in this scroll, by fearing this glorious and awesome name -- Yahweh, your God --" All quotes are from the Holman Christian Standard Bible. |
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3 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | Robin Hass | 157785 | ||
Yahweh is His personal name. God is an English noun, Theos is a Greek noun, Bog is a Slavonic noun. Allah is a Arab noun. I think the latter four are equivalents. The Maltese need a word to translate theos: translating Yahweh is a different matter. Robin. |
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4 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | kalos | 157789 | ||
Yahweh (YHWH) does not, never did and never will translate as Allah. | ||||||
5 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | Robin Hass | 157793 | ||
We are talking about the Malti (semitic) translation of the Greek word theos: which is Allah. | ||||||
6 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | MJH | 157804 | ||
I believe you are mistaken to assume the Maltese language uses the term "Allah" as a impersonal noun like the words "god" or "theos." "Allah" is a personal name, and not a generic word for "god." If those on Malta are using the term "Allah" as a translation of the word "god" or "theos" as you seem to be stating, then the people of Malta have a serious problem because the name "Allah" is understood across all languages, much like the name YHWH is (only who knows how to pronounce the One True God's name.) It is unfortunate, for example, when the media translates a terrorist’s statement and translates the "Allah" as "god" in English, because it is not correct. The translation should be true to the speaker’s intent and translate "Allah" as "Allah" so there is no confusion. If those in Malta are translating a generic "god" as "Allah" they will also confuse the population. I say this as one who never went to Malta, nor do I know anyone there or anyone who went there. But, to answer your original question, I believe quite strongly that the personal name "Allah" should never be used of anyone but the god of Islam. MJH |
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7 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | Robin Hass | 157815 | ||
Dear MJH, This is basically a very good post. I agree with all of what you write, I have no ax to grind for Islam; I was just fascinated whilst on vacation this summer to come across Maltese Christians using the word Allah for God in their language. The only problem with your post is it needs backing up with some proofs. What is the etymology of the word Allah? It boils down to whether Allah is the personal name of a Arabic demon or simply their word for theos. If you can give proof that Allah is a personal name like Beelzebub then the case in closed; the Maltese Evangelicals are in error. I understand that the Maltese were under the rule of Islam in the medieval period, perhaps the word Allah wrongly came into their language at this time. If they were using it at the time of Paul's visit and right back to Babel then it is a true generic and totally legitimate. Paul perhaps encountered it when he engaged these people of 'barbarous' tongue on his missionary visitation. I seem to recall hearing that the Bible Societies whose job is to translate Scripture into hundreds of languages sometimes have problems with finding a word for theos; some ethnic groups may only know demonic personal names and have no word for God available. Going back to part 2 of my question, are you not of the opinion those non-Christians who speak of God and understand this to mean the Creator ARE referring to Yahweh. Surely even atheists who deny there is a Creator/God are denying the Christian God. Mankind's generic concept 'God' is Yahweh. The Maltese Christians are certainly using the word Allah to translate theos, here is proof: http://www.fgpc.org.mt/bible.htm Robin |
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8 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | Robin Hass | 157818 | ||
Maltese Christians baptising in the sea at the place where Paul is believed to have been shipwrecked, and where he was bitten by a viper. http://www.fgpc.org.mt/images/BaptMellieha04A.jpg |
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9 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | Makarios | 157820 | ||
Greetings Robin Haas! In everything that we are presented with in regards to God, we are admonished by Scripture to examine those things to make sure that they are true, based on the revealed Word that God has given us (Acts 17:11; 1 Thessalonians 5:21). If the Maltese Christians are baptising in the Jordan River but baptising in the name of Allah instead of in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, then what they are doing is not in agreement with Scripture, because "there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:12) Blessings to you, Makarios |
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10 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | Robin Hass | 157842 | ||
God in His wisdom instructed us to baptise in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, not the name of God, which prevents the name of a local foreign deity being used. Robin Hass |
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11 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | Makarios | 157861 | ||
Greetings Robin, You write, "God in His wisdom instructed us to baptise in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, not the name of God, which prevents the name of a local foreign deity being used." Do you believe that there is One God who exists in Three Persons - God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit? - Makarios |
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12 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | Robin Hass | 157864 | ||
Of course, I am a Trinitarian Christian. I fully subscribe to the definitions of the early Ecumenical Councils specifically Nicea 325 AD. No one has of yet made an attempt at the etymology of the word Allah. Is it simply a semitic impersonal noun for 'theos' or is it more complex than this, is it the personal name of a demonic entity. |
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13 | Is Allah the God of Israel? | Acts 28:2 | Makarios | 157867 | ||
Greetings Robin, I apologize, but I believe that the fact that the word "Allah" is used in reference to God in Islam is why you are getting a cold reception with this topic. We have seen people of the Islamic faith in the past frequent this Forum, with the possible intention of proselytizing. In the Old Testament, God is usually referred to with the Hebrew word "elohim." (Strong's #430 Hebrew) In the New Tetament, God is usually referred to with the Greek word "theos." (Strong's #2316 Greek) But the proper name LORD is referred to as "yhwh" or Yahweh (Strong's #3068 Hebrew). If we examine each of these closely, 'allah' is not derived from elohim or Yahweh or theos, nor is it based on those words. In fact, I cannot find any such Hebrew or Greek word 'allah' at all. If the Maltese Christians use "allah" as their word for God in their native barbaric tongue, then I can see where they would be misunderstood, since that is the same word that is used for an entirely different God in the Islamic religion. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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