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1 | Scripture is clear if we are open, right | Acts 11:1 | Makarios | 6901 | ||
Amen Phillip! I have been confronted by this idea- 'that one should speak in tongues upon receiving the Holy Spirit' before and I must say that you gave a great response! The two people that have confronted me on this issue (because of their church) were women who believed that you must speak in tongues to inherit salvation. This couldn't be farther from the Truth! I believe that speaking in tongues is one of the many gifts of the Holy Spirit (a gift that I do not have), but it is not in any way, shape, or form a prerequisite for salvation or 'evidence' that one has received the Holy Spirit. You gave the best and most succinct answer available by saying that the best 'evidence' for one receiving the Holy Spirit is a changed life! Amen! God bless, Nolan | ||||||
2 | Scripture is clear if we are open, right | Acts 11:1 | Hiram Abiff | 6908 | ||
I was raised in a Oneness Pentecostal church (tongues required for salvation) till the age of 15, at which point I quit and didn't go to any church until age 42. I was recently saved at a church that believes in tongues as a sign but not a requirement. This is also my present belief based on reading the Bible. I've seen people praying for hours in a very highly charged emotional atmosphere, being pulled on, rocked and yelled at until they seem to be experiencing physical and emotional fatigue. This seems to be the point that most speak in tongues. It would be very interesting to see a study of how many people who were brought to Christ in this manner continue to be practicing Christians after say six months. | ||||||
3 | Scripture is clear, right? | Acts 11:1 | Hank | 6912 | ||
Dear Hiram Abiff, your name sounds as though you are from the East, or have been to the East! Your post is as a note, but it contains a question, to wit: "The Scripure is clear if we are open, right." Well, there are parts of Scripture that are indeed clear, even to a simple person like me. And there are other parts of Scripture that are not clear, not to anyone this side of heaven. But the Scripture is crystal clear on who Christ is and what one must do to be saved......I'm quite unacquainted with the beliefs and practices of certain faiths, including the procedure you outline in your note of being "pulled on, rocked, and yelled at" in order to bring someone to Christ. I have never read any Scripture that would even remotely appear to support such a practice as you describe. Do you happen to know how these people justify their ritual, or whatever it is? By the way, Hiram, welcome to the Study Bible Forum. --Hank | ||||||
4 | Scripture is clear, right? | Acts 11:1 | Hiram Abiff | 6931 | ||
Thanks for the warm welcome. I am actually a redneck from Katy TX. The screen name came from a running joke on another board about the Freemasons trying to take over the world. The practice is not so much a ritual as a tradition I suppose. It seems to be done through over-enthusiasm, but with the sincere desire to win souls for Jesus. I should have made my point clearer. I feel that focusing intensely on one gift or feature of salvation and the wonderful “Jesus experience” can be so counter productive as to drive a person away from Christ. (Other interesting features of this doctrine, men may not wear short sleeves or have facial hair. Women cannot cut their hair, wear any makeup or jewelry including wedding rings. Television, G rated movies and the Internet are all sins. Etc., etc.) Being a new Christian that counts his time in the church in weeks, and has little bible knowledge, I am very grateful for this board. Of course I realize that not everything I read here is correct or accurate, but it is still a blessing for a young Christian. Christian, Husband, Texan, American |
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5 | Scripture is clear, right? | Acts 11:1 | Hiram Abiff | 6935 | ||
Dear Hank, I just reread your comment and realized I went off on a tangent and didn’t answer your question. Their whole doctrine is based on the 2nd. chapter of Acts. Their reading of the account of the day of Pentecost is that not only did the people who were saved on that day speak in tongues but also this set the rule for all future people who are saved. This makes tongues at the time of salvation a requirement. If you debate the issue with them they usually say tongues is the (not a) sign that the Holy Ghost has entered your body, but if you do not experience tongues you are not saved in their eyes. I personally have no desire to be saved in any human’s eyes, but in Jesus eyes and my heart. By the way I believe the full plan of salvation is Acts 2:38. Christian, Husband, Texan, American |
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