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1 | Our authority in His name? | John 6:29 | AWilliamson | 217682 | ||
Now for the Matt 24v36 passage. 1. You will note that the expression "neither the Son" is omitted from the KJV/NKJV versions in Matt 24v36 and I believe it should be. 2. The word "neither the Son" ARE however found in Marks Gospel Ch13v32 and the reason why I believe this is the case I have noted below. We have been given 4 Gospel records, each with a particular purpose (as most will know). Matthew presents the Lord as King/Messiah, Mark as Servant, Luke as Man, John as Son of God. In the Gospel of Mark the Lord Jesus is presented to us as the perfect Servant and that is why I believe this expression is recorded there. In John 15v15 we read these words "...the servant knoweth not what his master doeth...". When the Lord said that, what He was saying is that it is not the servants PLACE to know such things. Now, I believe that this is the position the Lord takes up in Mark 13v32. He is the Servant - as such He has been given certain truths to reveal by the Father, this He does perfectly. But, when it comes to "the day or hour" He does not know in the sense that it is not His place to know as a Servant. I want to quote William MacDonald if I may: "It is well known that this verse has been used by enemies of the gospel to prove that Jesus was nothing more than a man with limited knowledge like ourselves. It has also been used by sincere but misguided believers to demonstrate that Jesus emptied Himself of the attributes of Deity when He came into the world as a man. Neither of these interpretations is true. Jesus was and is both God and Man. He had all the attributes of Deity and all the characteristics of perfect manhood. It is true that His Deity was veiled in a body of flesh, but it was there nonetheless. There was never a time when He was not fully God." (William MacDonald, Believers Bible Commentary, Pg1357). To use this one verse as a basis for an argument against the Lord Jesus possessing the full attributes of deity is in my opinion very unwise. Hope this hs helpful to some. In Him David |
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2 | Our authority in His name? | John 6:29 | Morant61 | 217685 | ||
Greetings David! Thanks for the response my Irish friend! :-) As you correctly noted, there are some textual variants concerning Matt. 24:36. However, there are no such variants in the parallel passage in Mark. So, we can press the full force of the text. :-) In your analysis, the main problem I would have is that the text includes no such qualifiers. It simply says, "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." So, how would we be doing justice to the text if we say that He really does know it, but it just isn't His place to know it? ;-) The text is very clear, which by the way, is probably why it is missing in some of the Matthew manuscripts, as some of the scribes felt that it was too difficult of a statement about Christ. Just for the record though, by the 'kenosis', I don't in any way mean that Christ ceased to be God. He always has been and always will be God. I like to think of it in relation to Mike Tyson. If I were to fight Mike Tyson, I would lose! But, if Mike Tyson were to tie both of his hand behind his back for the entire fight, I would probably still lose. :-) In the above scenario though, Mike Tyson never ceases to be Mike Tyson. He simply places voluntary limits upon his capabilities. In the same way, Jesus never ceased to be God, but He was also fully human. God never hungers, but Christ did. God never feels pain, but Christ did. God never dies, but Christ did. God never lacks information about anything, but Jesus did. I don't see any way that we can be true to the incarnation and not accept that Jesus was not boxing to His full potential while here on earth. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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