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1 | Born of the Pneuma or pneuma? | John 3:8 | Ray | 142268 | ||
In regard to thinking about how God speaks to us, were we born from above by the Spirit or the spirit? We were born again by His Spirit or His spirit? Or both? From the heart, Ray |
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2 | Born of the Pneuma or pneuma? | John 3:8 | lionheart | 142523 | ||
Goodafternoon Ray, I'm not real sharp when it comes to these types of things.I know that God Is Holy and that God is Spirit, and that we recieved from God what he is. Could you clear this up for me. In Christ, lionheart |
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3 | Born of the Pneuma or pneuma? | John 3:8 | Ray | 142551 | ||
Hi lionheart, I have been working on an understanding for this verse for some twenty years now. It is still a work in progress for me, with pencil in hand. I am really asking a question and looking for input. Looking at what you wrote to me we might start to consider the Spirit and the spirit, the Man and the man. For you wrote--and I don't know if you intended the lower case--"that we received from God what he is". "What he is". My thoughts expressed on the forum are these. I differentiate between the Giver and the gift. I see the Holy Spirit and the holy spirit. I see Jesus as 100 percent God and 100 percent Man [sic]. He came in the likeness of men but we know Him as God/Man. 1) Now in what you have written, the person [holy thing] that we have received from God the Giver would be lower case spirit. We could say with Romans 8:15 that we have received a spirit [sic] of adoption by which we cry "Daddy, Father!" Or we could say with 2 Timothy 1:6,7 that the gift of God that is in us, that God has given us, is not a spirit of timidity but of power. So the thought is that God's Son was given to us by God; so Jesus is the Gift and the Giver of spirit as well. 2) My thought of what spirit is: The spirit is connected with the words and testimony of God, the word of God. I think of John 3:34, "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for He gives the (s)Spirit [my choice is spirit] without measure. Thus, words equals spirit. We are born from above, born again, by the word of God. So I would say again that God is the Giver (of the words), and the gift is that spiritual word that He gives without measure. 3) I would suggest that you read the other threads on this verse and maybe we can look at 1 Thessalonians 1-5 and Ezekiel 37:5-10 and compare them with this verse. Someone also mentioned 1 Corinthians and Romans 8:16. Thanks for your thoughts. From the heart, Ray |
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4 | Born of the Pneuma or pneuma? | John 3:8 | lionheart | 142554 | ||
Thanx Ray, That makes things somewhat clearer. I will check out the scripture references you gave me and I'll get back to you with any further questions. Thanx, lionheart P.S- I'm a work in progress too. |
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5 | Born of the Pneuma or pneuma? | John 3:8 | Ray | 142572 | ||
Hi lionheart, I would hope that we all are a work in progress in sanctification. 1 Thess 4:7, "For God/ has not called us for the purpose of impurity, but in sanctification. 8 Consequently, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His (h)Holy (s)Spirit [my choice is holy spirit, the gift] to you. 9 Now as to the love of the brethren, you have no need for anyone to write to you, for you yourselves are taught by (God) to love one another." 1 Thess 4:1, "Finally, then, brethren, we request and exhort you in the Lord Jesus, that, as you received from us [instruction] as to how you ought to walk and please (God), (just as you actually do walk), that you may excel still more." Romans 8:4, "who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the (Spirit)." The parentheses, except for the (just as you actually do walk) are mine for comparisons. From the heart, Ray |
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6 | Born of the Pneuma or pneuma? | John 3:8 | lionheart | 142573 | ||
Thanx my brother. lionheart |
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