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1 | One religion as good as another? | John 14:6 | charis | 29651 | ||
Dear Servant7, Greetings to you in the name of Jesus! I agree with you that the Abrahamic covenant may well be in effect. In fact, that is what I was saying in my post, right? I seem to be missing something here. What two studies? While I am here, I might as well say that as to the salvation of Israel and/or the Jews, I am not sure I can accept that without a disclaimer. If we are talking about a geopolitical entity and/or an ethnic group that have the reputation of a penchant for mammon (tongue in cheek, cousins! :-)), I would have to disagree. But if we are talking about a nation of faith in the God of Abraham, El-Shadday and/or individuals that trust in the covenant made to their fathers, I could see that God will have a place for them in His heart. Blessings in Christ Jesus, charis |
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2 | One religion as good as another? | John 14:6 | Servant7 | 29718 | ||
Greetings In The Lord. God made a covenant with Abraham as an everlasting covevant. God cannot lie. By refrencing Abrahams seed, nothing political or otherwise is being alluded to. This, quit frankly, refrences the seed, or simplified, the offspring of Abraham. Through Christ, Believers are shareing in this covenant. Now, as far as the two studies i was writeing of; I feel I was sending this topic in two directions; therefore, two destinct studies. My apologies for the confusion:) Finally, understand,I agree that a person has to love The Lord God. A person who Hates God (That's a study all by itself), is not a child of God. We cannot forget; however, That the seed of Abraham( or Israel) ARE God's people. You and I both know that Salvation through Jesus is the only way. So in that understanding we can enjoy discussing the "meat" of the word. I am Grateful for your time. A servant in Christ, Servant7 |
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3 | 'Seed' salvation? | John 14:6 | charis | 29743 | ||
Dear Servant7, Greetings in Jesus' name! Thanks for clearing up my confusion. (It was getting late at night on this side of the globe.) Please explain what you mean by 'Abraham's seed.' I understand that 'seed' usually means the blood-descendents, but I am not sure I that this would be applicable in this case, fo the following reasons: From word one, the covenant with Abraham was a covenant of faith. "Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness." Genesis 15:6 NASB. Israel, the blood descendents of Abraham were not faithful to God. "You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did." Acts 7:51 NASB. The house of Israel served foreign gods and took foreign wives, adulterating the line of Abraham. 'Then Ezra the priest stood up and said to them, "You have been unfaithful and have married foreign wives adding to the guilt of Israel."' Ezra 10:10 NASB, and "It shall come about when they say, 'Why has the LORD our God done all these things to us?' then you shall say to them, 'As you have forsaken Me and served foreign gods in your land, so you will serve strangers in a land that is not yours.'" Jeremiah 5:19 NASB. While it is true that there are many instances of Israel's repentance recorded in the Bible, there are MORE instances of sin and rebellion! For this very reason God sent His Son, Jesus. I do believe that God, in His perfect mercy, may honor the faith of the faithful descendents of Abraham in accord with His covenant with Abraham, but not the blood 'seed.' I understand that this would be an 'extra-Gospel salvation,' so I am not willing to state unequivocably that it is so. Blessings and peace in Christ Jesus, charis |
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4 | 'Seed' salvation? | John 14:6 | Robert Nicholson | 29951 | ||
Dear brother Charis: Greetings from the land of snow and ice, Ontario Canada. In Gen. 12:3 we have a promise given to Abram which extends beyond the nation of Israel and takes in every individual regardless of race. "I will bless them that bless you and curse him that curseth thee and in "thee" shall all the families of the earth be blessed." Gen 12:3 We find that the covenant of God with Abraham promised his posterity would be as the sand of the sea and as the stars of heaven. It was through Abrahams promise and through his seed from whence the Saviour came. We can truly say of him "in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed. John 14:6 Jesus makes it clear that "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but by me" The only way to God is through the precious blood of Christ which was shed on Calvary for our sins. Without the way there is no knowing, without the truth there is no going and without the life there is no living. A companion verse is used by Peter in the Acts. 4:12 "Neither is there salavation in any other for there is no other Name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" Would you agree that our individual journey to God is unique and yet by the holy Spirit we are brought to Christ who is the door to heaven? God bless you dear brother in your labor for the Master. Robert |
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5 | 'Seed' salvation? | John 14:6 | charis | 29966 | ||
Dear Robert, Greetings in the name of Jesus! Yokohama is a bit cold, too! But not like Canada! :-) Friend, I agree with all you wrote here. I do believe that Jesus is the door to heaven. However, I cannot *absolutely* state that no one else will make it to heaven, because the Bible DOES make room for 'loopholes' in His divine plan. No doubt these 'exceptions' are by His grace, and according to His sovereignty. The *everlasting covenant* to Abraham is one example. I, personally, do not feel I have sufficient Scriptural evidence to negate this holy covenant to the 'father of our faith.' So, I give that to God. Another is children, especially of unsaved parents. I do not believe that the Bible clearly explains their status with God. This is a very emotional topic! Nobody wants to say these 'innocents' belong in Hell. (I put 'innocents' in quotes because I have witnessed that at about 6 months old the 'innocence' seems to be gone, replaced by good old human will :-)) Yet, the Bible does not say that all are saved until a certain age, then they lose their salvation. Another is the sad case of those that do not have the mental capacity to manifest any kind of relationship with the Lord Jesus. True, we do not know what is going on in the mind of a mentally disabled person, but some really do seem incapable of a salvation realtionship based on repentance from sin. Yet another is in 1 Corinthians 7 regarding the sancification of an unbelieving spouse. This portion of Scripture seems to put a covering upon the children of believers as well. Does this mean that they are 'automatically' saved? I doubt it, but I don't know in an absolute sense. Some would even go a step further and tie it in with Acts 11:14 and say that one person's belief covers all family up to first cousins! No kidding! I think this is foolish, but some are so sure. :-) What I am saying here is that many spend an inordinate amount of time and effort to 'prove' either the 'narrowness' of salvation or the 'breadth' of it. I don't. I preach to Jews of salvation in Christ Jesus. I preach to the infirm the Gospel, and pray that the Lord would quicken their understanding. I preach to children the need for knowing Jesus, and starting their own walk with Him. And I preach to unsaved relatives that THEY need to know the Lord Jesus! Even if there are 'loopholes,' I am not off the hook to preach the Gospel of hope to the lost, AND to the saved. Thank you for your kind words! In Christ Jesus, charis |
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6 | 'Seed' salvation? | John 14:6 | moedee | 29978 | ||
I Greek U In The Name Of Jesus "Loopholes" in Gods Plan John 14:6 Takes any LOOPHOLE out RE: "SEED" and "Faith" I the question in relationship to "The Kingdom" Seven of the "Kingdom of Heaven" Parables are found in Matt. 13 The 'Parable of the Sower' in refence to Faith - hearing the word of God comes in four classes. (1) The Wayside Hearer - Snatch up before it can take root. (2) The Stony Ground Hearer - Here the seed takes root but dies before it can grow up because of the "shallowness" of the soil. (3) The Thorny-Ground Hearer - Here the seed take root grows up but bear no fruit. (4) The Good-Ground Hearer - Here the seed take root 'grows up' bears fruit but varies amount. Some bringd forth 100 fold, some 60, some 30. Why is this? It was not the soil's fault. It is lack of cultivation, if the soil had been properly cleared, tilled, and cultivated, and proper "Atmospheric Conditions" it would have brought forth a uniform crop of a 100 fold. So keep telling others about Jesus our Christ but there are no loopholes, however you do have a choose because the Bible simple saids "Whosoever Will", but the wages of sin is death and thanks be to God He provided a way for you and I to stand before God in His name. Servant Of God moedee |
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7 | 'Seed' salvation? | John 14:6 | charis | 29987 | ||
Dear moedee, Greetings in the name of Jesus! Friend, I appreciate your response and accompanying commentary on the Parable of the Sower. Honestly, though, I cannot fathom the relevance to my post. I hear what you are saying about John 14:6, but I do beg to differ. What do YOU think about children that die before birth? The mentally infirm? The clear references to Israel in the Book of Revelation? The unsaved spouse of a believer? Do you pack them all off to Hell, quoting John 14:6? I KNOW that God is just, and that He knows that heart of man, while we do not. I trust Him completely. But He has not addressed these issues except to imply that grace may be applied. Therefore, I do not propose 'extra-Gospel' salvation lightly, but only give these things over to God's sovereignty. Peace to you in Christ Jesus, charis |
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