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1 | Father greater than Jesus | John 14:28 | Morant61 | 130769 | ||
Greetings Babbler! Thanks for the response my friend! Allow me to briefly touch upon the 'unity of nature' question. If Jesus were simply saying in John 10:30 that He and the Father were one in purpose, why would the Jews respond by wanting to stone Him? To me, it is obvious that Jesus was making more than a claim to common goals and that His claim was so shocking that the crowd wanted to kill Him for it. What was the claim? I believe that it included a 'unity of nature' with God the Father. As far as John 8:17 goes, there is nothing in the text excluding the Holy Spirit. Jesus is simply making the point that two witnesses are considered valid. He does not say that there can't be three witnesses. :-) Finally, I don't consider the Holy Spirit an 'it'. I have posted before on what Scripture has to say about the Holy Spirit if you would care to search for those posts. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Father greater than Jesus | John 14:28 | thisbabbler | 130773 | ||
I would not be too quick to draw any conclusions that mirror the Pharisees. These men did not even perceive he was the Messiah! Jesus was convicted of sedition, but you don't believe he truly was a seditionist, do you? When Jesus stated that he did nothing of his own originality, but only what the Father taught him, this would have immediately removed any thoughts that Jesus was claiming to be God. They claimed he was making himself equal with God, but Jesus said he was not. (John 14:28) |
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3 | Father greater than Jesus | John 14:28 | Morant61 | 130782 | ||
Greetings Babbler! Obviously, they were not clear on Who Jesus was, but then again, most people today still can't get that issue straight! :-) However, the fact remains that it would be difficult to imagine anyone wanting to stone Jesus for simply saying that He shared a common purpose with God. :-) Besides, the fact remains that the Pharisees state why they wanted to kill Him. They didn't say, 'We want to kill Him because He agrees with God!" ;-) As far as John 14:28 goes, you are mixing to different passages. In the passage where they accused Him of making Himself equal with God, He did not deny it. John 14:28 refers to a coversation between His disciples and Himself. Nothing is mentioned in this passage about being equal to God. Most believe that Jesus is once again simply speaking as the incarnate man. There are plenty of Scripture that do speak of Jesus' equality with God. John 1:1-14 speaks to this issue, as does Phil. 2:5-11. There are many more as well, but these are two of the 'biggies'. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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