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1 | Paul, the Answers Are? | Luke 5:8 | BradK | 179525 | ||
Hi Paul, I'm in basic agreement with your reply in the 1st 3 paragraphs. However, I'm still hanging with your scenario of Judas and the ongoing question that "Without judas would I be a Christian?" Are you stating that God's plan would have been frustrated? You seem to contradict your initial response!? Isn't this merely speculative as Judas did betray Christ and the prophecy was fulfilled? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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2 | Paul, the Answers Are? | Luke 5:8 | brother paul | 179534 | ||
Dear Brad, By your answer you agree that Christ had to be betrayed. The meaning of 'betrayed' involves a close associate who turns against you. Therefore someone close to Christ, intimately involved with Him had to turn against Him, to identify Him as the Messiah. Alright, OK, it didnt have to be Judas, but someone had to do it, otherwise we would not have the confirmation of His special place in the plan of God. Maybe I should say without a traitor would I be a Christian. This does not alter the original precept of the debate. Without a traitor would I be a Christian? This is the centre of my point, that somehow in the plan of God had to betray Christ for me to be Christian, we have to go through rejecton before acceptance. This is how God brings us to Him, 'sin' and 'rebellion' are all part of the process. The question is where legalism seperates itself from Christ, is this process 'wrong'? Yours, and His, in Him, Paul |
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3 | Paul, the Answers Are? | Luke 5:8 | DocTrinsograce | 179535 | ||
Dear Paul, I think you've got your causes and effects mixed up. John 6:44 does NOT say, "No man can come to me, except Judas succeeded in his betrayal." :-) In Him, Doc |
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