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NASB | Luke 5:8 But when Simon Peter saw that, he fell down at Jesus' feet, saying, "Go away from me Lord, for I am a sinful man!" |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 5:8 But when Simon Peter saw this, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, "Go away from me, for I am a sinful man, O Lord!" |
Subject: The meaning of your statments |
Bible Note: Hello Brian, 1 John 1:9 and 7b are explicit, I totally agree, everything must come back through Christ, yes yes yes, that is exactly where I come from. But how does He get us to that place? It is through our experience of sin sepereration and denial, where we stagger from one bad decision to another. That's how He does it, using our experience in sin and spiritual blindness to bring us to a place where we accept Him. My question is, do we judge this procedure as 'wrong'? Therefore is wordly 'sin' wrong and out of God's plan, if ultimately it might bring people to Him? This is the readjustment of our thinking. What we call 'sin' might be His plan. Romans 1:26 explains how God gives evildoers over to sin, and 1 Cor 5:5 repeats the same principle. God uses 'sin' to bring people to repentance. Therefore is it 'wrong'? I do not advocate a life of sin, that is not the point, but I can see how people are concluded in sin to come to God. In Matthew 13:24-30 we have the parable of the wheat and tares. It starts with Jesus saying that the kingdom of heaven is likened unto, and to be in the kingdom of heaven we must be born of the spirit. (John 3:5) In this spirit message Jesus exp;ains how the would be gardeners do not know the difference between the wheat and the tares until they have matured. Do we have to wait until sin has worked it's process? Until sin has become exceedingly sinful? (Rom 7:13) Yes I do think we have to revisit these questions and redifine what me mean by sin in the divine plan of salvation. Yours, and His, in Him Paul |