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1 | luke 23:34 | Luke 23:34 | Wild Olive Shoot | 170886 | ||
Edwin, I thank you for your time and effort on this subject. I haven’t as of yet, but do plan to read the article you recommended and consider it as well. One thing for certain, I believe I’ll still find it hard to alter my position given the fact that the verses posted concerning the “ignorance” have yet to be reconciled with the subject claim. But know that I do plan to consider it all. To close, it seems apparent that Christ knew they wouldn’t believe and I think that is the key. Had there been belief, there could be no claim of ignorance on the part of the leaders from the Apostles. Luke 22:67 Art thou the Christ? tell us. And he said unto them, If I tell you, ye will not believe: John 10:24, 25: 24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. 25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. 1Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. Acts 3:17,18: 17 And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. 1Titus 1:13,14: 13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. 14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. Something that did peek my interest, when you stated: “I believe that what our Lord intended to convey was that He knew exactly what they had said about Him in private, behind closed doors, ie, that they knew very well that He was in fact the Christ. "You have (past tense) said that i am".” Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. I took the intent of the past tense here to be the immediate. Never did I consider that He was referring to anytime prior to this occasion of questioning. Thanks again Brother WOS |
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2 | luke 23:34 | Luke 23:34 | ebrain | 171877 | ||
Hi again WOS. Sorry for the delay, have a look please at John 20:30-31. Now Elijah performed miracles, but was not the Christ, Elisha performed miracles, but was not the Christ, Moses performed miracles, but was not the Christ. John says at v31 "But these" refering to what I have said before, certain miracles that only the Messiah when He came would be able to perform. John makes it quite clear that Jesus performing "these" miracles prove beyond any shadow of doubt that He is the Christ. Now please read the whole of Ch 9 of John. What had our Lord done, but to give sight to one born blind, a good deed, there is no Scripture forbidding doing good deeds on the Sabbath, so why were the Pharisees so extreem, so over the top in there opposition to Him, even going so far as to excomunicate the one who had his sight given to him? Note v32, and also v41, where our Lord uses the words "blind", and "see", with the meaning of knowledge, in other words "You know very well who I am, and therefore "Your guilt remains". All scripture references are from the ESV May the Lord bless you WOS, and all who use this web site. pabrain. |
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