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1 | antichrist | Luke 10:27 | c marengo | 124963 | ||
I appreciate your concern but please understand that I do not discount the devil, I choose to believe what the word says..He was completely destroyed by the work of the cross (Col.2:15) Our resistance of the devil is from a view of total victory. Jesus verifies this idea in the model prayer when he states we pray "lead us not into temptation but deliver us from the evil one". WE find that Jesus emphasis is on the security we have when we address God as deliverer. I see so many believers who live a life where they focus on the devil more than they do God. The ground we give him is our doing. James says to "resist the devil and he will flee from you." Remember the only thing the enemy is "as a roaring lion". He is Defeated! Why should we fear? Jesus placed ALL AUTHORITY AND POWER in us when He comes to take up residence in us. Does Jesus fear Satan? | ||||||
2 | Destroyed or Defeated? | Luke 10:27 | Morant61 | 124995 | ||
Greetings C Marengo! I agree my friend that Satan is a defeated enemy. However, he has not been completely destroyed. If he had been, why would James say to resist the devil? Why would Paul speak of the flaming arrows of the devil in Eph. 6? A wounded animal is more dangerous! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Destroyed or Defeated? | Luke 10:27 | c marengo | 125002 | ||
tim, it seems that I have touched on a subject that means much. A study of what happened on the cross and during the days of Jesus' burial and subsequent resurrection will edify. Jesus undid what Adam did...we have a position in Christ that we must come in contact with...you see the instruction from the word is to put us not on the defensive when it comes to Satan but on the offense. Notice in the armor of God there is nothing on the rear side...because we are to be moving forward. Also, we gear up not in a battle position of wondering the outcome but of expected and even, if I may offer the idea...previctory. Just as in the Old Testament when God led the children of Israel in battle He would assure them of victory...oft times they did nothing, other times they simply fought, other times they just walked and yelled, other times they just praised God...bottom line they were assured of victory. If the old covenant gave such glory how much more the new covenant...what I believe is not a simplification but rather an acceptance of my position in Christ...I am seated with Him in heavenly places..I am an overcomer in Him..in Him I am blessed with all spiritual blessisngs..in Him I live and move..you see it's all about Him. When we as His sons and daughters begin to walk and live the victory He obtained on the cross, then we can see His glory begin to fill the earth. He is waiting on us.. but we tend to spend most of our time focused on "the great escape". He is looking for a glorious church not one living below its station on this earth. He expects us to be the ones to take dominion. Your brother, c marengo |
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4 | Destroyed or Defeated? | Luke 10:27 | Morant61 | 125011 | ||
Greetings C Margengo! Thanks for the response my friend! Yet, again I agree that Satan is a defeated enemy. But, Scritpure stills warns us of his dangerers even still. To touch upon your analogies, the church should be moving forward in battle. However, what happens if she doesn't? You mentioned that there is no armour on the backside. What happens if a believer turns around? :-) You mentioned battles in the OT. Remember what happened to Joshua when Moses dropped his hands? Here are just a few verses that indicate that even Christians can get into trouble with Satan if they are not marching forward all the time. Eph. 4:27 - "and do not give the devil a foothold." If we are commanded to 'not give' the devil a foothold, then it most be 'possible' for him to get a foothold. Eph. 6:11 - "Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes." Putting on the full armor allows us to stand against the devil's schemes. But, what if a believer does not put on the full armor? 1 Tim. 3:7 - "He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap." How many ministries has satan ruined by leading believers into traps? James 4:7 - "Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." If we resist, he will flee. But, what if we don't resist? 1 Pet. 5:8 - "Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. 9 Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings." Again, if we resist and stand firm, he will flee. But, these commands require us to do something. If we don't, we give satan an opportunity that he could not have otherwise. Rev. 2:10 - "Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life." This verse tells us clear that at some point in the future, Satan will be behind the persecution of Christians. Of course, we know what his ultimate destiny is in the end. I agree with much of what you have said about satan, but I disagree that he is no longer a threat. As long as we are 'in Christ', we have nothing to fear personally. But, satan can and will use others to attack us. We will suffer persecution, and perhaps even death. So, we must not suppose that satan is no threat at all. Just out of curiosity my friend, are you a proponent of 'dominion' theology? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Destroyed or Defeated? | Luke 10:27 | c marengo | 125026 | ||
tim, thanks for your response... "What happens if..." What someone may experience and what is true may often run in opposition. Consider the fact that Jesus says that no one can remove us from His hands, Pauls says nothing can separate us from the love of God..yet we see people who seem to walk away from Him daily. Does their experience nullify the truth? I mention OT refs..yes and as Hebrews states these were given for us as shadows. We can look at the OT and learn. The victory is for the taking all we have to do is act upon it. The NT scriptures given as "warnings" are for us to learn and live..too often I see believers struggle from a defeated standpoint. Eph.4 states before verse27..."put off the concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lust; and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; and that you put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness" Eph.4:22-24 What do we emphasize? If we focus on the new man, renewing daily the mind...how can "the devil" touch us? What if they don't put on the full armor? How can anyone go half way? Look at the armor of God..belt of truth, breastplate of righteousness, helmet of peace, sword of the spirit, shield of faith, shoes of the gospel...who is truth? who is our righteousness? who is our peace? who is the spirit? who is the source of faith? who is the gospel? How can anyone truly just take on Jesus partially? Is it possible? How many ministries has Satan ruined? James says that we sin due to being drawn away of our own lust..James 1:13-15 Why do we put off on the devil what God has left in our hands to control? If we walk by the spirit we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh.Gal.5:16 Truth is Tim I do not focus my attention on "Satan", I don't see in scriptue where we are encouraged to do so...I do see the focus on the words ability to renew my mind, direct my life and touch the world for the glory of God. Proponent of 'dominion' theology? I might be... Question is...am I still your brother? Your brother in Christ, c marengo |
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6 | Destroyed or Defeated? | Luke 10:27 | Morant61 | 125037 | ||
Greetings C Marengo! Of course you would still be my brother! :-) We would probably disagree on quite a few details though! :-) I do not propose dwelling on Satan either my friend. But, I don't propose ignoring him either. Scripture is filled with warnings about his tactics and tricks. We must be alert. For instance, you asked if someone could only put on half the armor. I believe this is possible. The command to put on the whole armor is given to Christians. Therefore, it must be possible to be a Christian and not 'put on' the whole armor of God. Christians were commanded to resist. Christians were commanded to stand, ect.... Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | Destroyed or Defeated? | Luke 10:27 | c marengo | 125090 | ||
Tim, good point..no problem.. Paul uses the term "slave of Christ", a slave can never say no to his master..how can a true believer disobey the command of his master? |
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8 | Destroyed or Defeated? | Luke 10:27 | Morant61 | 125093 | ||
Greetings C Marengo! Sure a slave can say 'no'! They would pay a price for saying it, but they could say it. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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9 | Destroyed or Defeated? | Luke 10:27 | c marengo | 125095 | ||
tim, what is the price to be paid when we disobey? and if we disobey how can we blame that on the devil? |
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