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1 | Love/Feed/Tend His Sheep | Mark 6:34 | DocTrinsograce | 131538 | ||
Hi, Tim... I just use the tools, I'm certainly no expert. Of course, that never stops me from tossing out an opinion! :-) So here it is: It seems to me that agape was a word waiting to be defined. As though it were a place holder designed by Providence ready for Christ to exemplify. Although I cannot now find the reference, I recall reading that the ancients themselves had difficulty with the word. Even Socrates doesn't seem completely certain about it, though he spoke about agape a number of times. I do not believe that any human being, in our lost condition, knows how to love sacrificially and selflessly. The word just doesn't have a home among men. Christ demonstrated this kind of love, but only a child of God can comprehend it. Only the regenerate, as new creatures, empowered by the Holy Spirit, can evidence agape. Just my 2 cents, once again. :-) One of these days I'll run out of money... then my posts will become truly cents-less. :-) |
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2 | Love/Feed/Tend His Sheep | Mark 6:34 | Morant61 | 131553 | ||
Greetings Doc! Thanks for the input! To a degree, I believe that you are correct. The word 'agape' certainly came to mean more over the passing of time. I have simply been trying to point out that 'definitions' of ancient words are determined by context and can be quite subjective. There simply is no 'dictionary' for us to consult from the first century that will tell us if there is a clear cut distinction between 'agapao' and 'phileo'. Scholars look at how a word was used in extra-biblical sources and then at how a word was used in Scripture to determine meaning. Sometimes, the definitions are accurate, but sometimes they are not. In this case, I have shown that Scripture clearly uses 'phileo' in describing God's love at times. So, I would argue that God certainly didn't engage in a 'lesser' kind of love! ;-) Thus, some of the distinctions being promoted seem a bit forced. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Love/Feed/Tend His Sheep | Mark 6:34 | DocTrinsograce | 131570 | ||
Thank you, Pastor Tim... I wasn't contending with what you had posted. I was just trying to augment it a bit. We have no dictionary, per se, but we have a whole lot of stuff to look at! It helps when you have all that Greek stuff where they play those logic games, defining words for one another. The Septuagent helps quite a bit, too. In that we get a sort of Rosetta Stone of which words in Hebrew were translated to Greek. The absence of a dictionary, per se, is not quite such a handicap. We are blessed that the ancients were so nuts for paperwork. Imagine how helpful it would have been had the library in Alexandria survived. Thank you for your posts, Pastor Tim! |
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4 | Love/Feed/Tend His Sheep | Mark 6:34 | Morant61 | 131584 | ||
Greetings Doc! A library would have been nice! :-) Even then though, languages evolve over time. So, we still would have fun debates over meanings. ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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