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1 | In the service of the Lord, yet unsaved? | Matt 7:21 | Brian.g | 74462 | ||
Searcher As long as a Christian, on the day he was baptised, was truly committed to Christ - can he act any way he wants to from that day forward - and still be acceptable to Christ? Brian |
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2 | In the service of the Lord, yet unsaved? | Matt 7:21 | CDBJ | 74469 | ||
Hi Brian, Your theology is running contrary to Paul’s! Are those you speak of truly believers according to Ephesians, if they aren’t then they are not as the word implies, Christians? Ephes. 1:12-14 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. [13] In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, [14] Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. If they truly believed and trusted in Jesus as the Christ then they are sealed. One of you two is wrong and I think I would put my money on what Paul is telling us. Also, just to keep the facts correct, there is never any mention of baptism, as you suggest, in the message of the gospel or were you talking about after effects of salvation? My two cents worth, CDBJ |
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3 | In the service of the Lord, yet unsaved? | Matt 7:21 | Brian.g | 74487 | ||
CDBJ Last night, I also had the opportunity to respond to a similiar question on this forum,which was asked by 'dabmci'. I feel that my response to that question, is also applicable to this discussion. dabmci I think with this one question, you are also resolving another debate on this forum, as to whether 'once saved - always saved'. Judas, as an Apostle, was baptised and a follower of Jesus. After his betrayal of Jesus, Scripture shows that Judas regretted his action - whether it was because he knew he was in trouble (with God) or because he was truly repentant is something we'll never now. But, in Jesus sermons He addressed the issue that how you live your life is important, in addition to accepting Jesus, through Baptism. Matthew 7:21-23 21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?' 23 Then I will declare to them solemnly, 'I never knew you. Depart from me, you evildoers.' In the Passion of Christ, John 17:12 When I was with them I protected them in your name that you gave me, and I guarded them, and none of them was lost except the son of destruction, in order that the scripture might be fulfilled. We know that Jesus was referring to Judas in this verse. Entrance into the kingdom is only for those who do the will of the Father. On the day of judgment (on that day) those who lived their lives in evil will be rejected by Jesus, as we saw regarding Judas in John 17:12. In answer to your question, it didn't matter if Judas repented - Jesus rejected him. ------------ I'm not a theologian or an expert on Scripture, it's just my understanding of what Jesus, Himself, had said. Brian |
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4 | In the service of the Lord, yet unsaved? | Matt 7:21 | CDBJ | 74509 | ||
Your post suggested something of which I can find no Scriptural evidence. You said, “But, in Jesus sermons He addressed the issue that how you live your life is important, in addition to accepting Jesus, through Baptism.” Where does it say that we are to accept Jesus through Baptism? I was always under the impression that the Bible teaches believing in Jesus first and then the water baptism is to follow if it is actually water baptism that you are referring to. Could you point out to me where baptism precedes believing in Christ or the gospel message, I have never noticed it? CDBJ |
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5 | In the service of the Lord, yet unsaved? | Matt 7:21 | Brian.g | 74560 | ||
CDBJ We are in agreement, I apologize if I didn't make myself clear Brian |
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