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1 | Speaking of Christ's Kenosis? | Matt 4:1 | Hank | 6150 | ||
Joe, I believe prayon is speaking of the kenosis of Jesus in her answer in regard to His temptation. Would you care to add your views to this interesting and important topic? | ||||||
2 | Speaking of Christ's Kenosis? | Matt 4:1 | Reformer Joe | 6197 | ||
Uh-oh. Asking me MY views will inevitably lead to LONG posts! :) Obviously, God set aside the exercise of some of his attributes when he humbled himself to an infinite degree by becoming like His creation. He did not exercise his omniscience, for example. I would imagine that Jesus did not come out of Mary's womb with the power of speech; he had to learn to talk. As a human being, he had to develop cognitively, I would imagine. I wonder what that was like without sin, don't you? No "terrible two's," no having to overcome the unbridled expression of a sinfulness that everyone else in Nazareth possessed, including his parents. One thing that we can see that Jesus did have at a very early age, however, is an innate sense of who he was. At twelve he is saying that he must be about his Father's business. Of course, Mary and Joseph would not have been taken aback by such a statement, having been there from the miraculous beginning. In short, Jesus laid aside His privileges as God the Son, but that is far different than saying he laid down His character. Christ did not stop BEING God; he only elected, for our sakes, not to utilize his divine abilities. I think the best way to put it is that He put Himself perfectly in man's position, but without sin. I would think that this included limiting himself physically (i.e. doing his signs and wonders by the power of the Spirit, like the apostles would later) and intellectually (e.g. not knowing the day nor hour of His return). In this way, he became the perfect sacrifice, His infinite holiness lived out in human form. He relied on the Spirit perfectly to follow the Father perfectly in order to be the perfect propitiation for our sins. And we did not deserve it in the slightest way! Now that is the humility Paul is talking about in Philippians 4:3-5, the same attitude that Christ Jesus had in doing all this for those who believe in Him. Quite an attitude for Paul to encourage us to imitate, huh? --Joe! |
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3 | Speaking of Christ's Kenosis? | Matt 4:1 | Hank | 6200 | ||
That was an excellent post, Joe, and I will not say anything bad about the length of your posts, certainly not anything close to what my English professor said to me one time. He said, "Hank, you can say in 1,000 words more than some people can say in 25." And I still can!....While we are still on this general theme of the humanity of our Lord, it might not be out of line to mention that I have recently picked up a book in a used bookstore called Jesus, An Interview Across Time, by Andrew Hodges, M.D. A psychiatrist and a Christian, Dr. Hodges "interviews" Christ, revealing, according to the blurb, a fascinating portrait of Jesus, both as man and God. I've only begun reading it, but the few pages I've turned thus far make me want to turn more. --Hank | ||||||