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1 | Jesus name baptism fulflls matt 28 | Matt 28:19 | coffee | 56517 | ||
This has been a very interesting discussion for me. I will not claim to have the right answer on any theological point as I understand some of my human state. God knows the truth and that is enough for me. Thankyou to all who contributed to this discussion. I find John a very interesting read. While reading this book it occurrs to me that sometimes it is Jesus speaking and sometimes it God speaking through Jesus and they always both agree. How wonderful is this book in establishing their love for us. Joe, I ask you, is it more important to fight for your understanding of theology; the bible, or is it more precious to lead others to having faith and following Jesus. Whatever you believe today then you need to follow for you and whatever RevC believes then he will also follow for him, and down the road your understanding may change. You are both were you need to be today. RevC thankyou for your calmness and love through out your posts. |
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2 | Jesus name baptism fulflls matt 28 | Matt 28:19 | Reformer Joe | 56717 | ||
Wow...even when I am gone on hiatus I am not forgotten! "Joe, I ask you, is it more important to fight for your understanding of theology; the bible, or is it more precious to lead others to having faith and following Jesus." Without using the Bible/theology as your source material, please tell me who Jesus is. "Whatever you believe today then you need to follow for you and whatever RevC believes then he will also follow for him, and down the road your understanding may change. You are both were you need to be today." That makes no sense at all. Is a Muslim "where he needs to be"? They believe in "Jesus," too. The Qu'ran speaks about him a great deal. What about Mormons? Are they where they need to be? Their theology has a great deal to say about "Jesus," but sadly it contradicts what the Bible says. Jehovah's Witnesses? They believe in "Jesus" as well, and claim to use the Bible as their only source of truth. The problem with all of these groups (and with Oneness Pentacostalism) is that unless you are believing in Jesus as he truly is, you are not a Christian. Not every Christian agrees on every point of theology, to be sure. But you do reach a point where the Jesus of the Bible doesn't resemble the Jesus of these cultic Oneness groups at all. In order to support Oneness, you have to reject the biblical nature of the Godhead completely. And if you have a horribly skewed view of who Jesus is, how can you possibly put your trust in the genuine article. Incidentally, Oneness Pentecostals believe that works are required to be saved, so it isn't only a question of "faith" in Jesus as he truly is, but also what Jesus has or has not accomplished on behalf of sinners. RevC, if he still persists in his heresy, is not a true follower of Jesus Christ any more than the Mormon or the JW or the Muslim. He is not where he needs to be if he intends on going to heaven. --Joe! |
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3 | Jesus name baptism fulflls matt 28 | Matt 28:19 | coffee | 56765 | ||
If you believe he is not and if you are the one to judge him then you are the one who knows what to really do. Are you the gate keeper? | ||||||
4 | Jesus name baptism fulflls matt 28 | Matt 28:19 | Reformer Joe | 56871 | ||
What you wrote made no sense. I am not the judge, nor the gate keeper. But the only Supreme Court Justice in this case has already written His opinion on the matter. It is called the Bible, and it makes very clear to those who have ears to hear what the findings are in the case of Yahweh v. RevC. Please cite some Scripture rebuking me if you think I am mistaken. This is a StudyBibleForum, after all. --Joe! |
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5 | Jesus name baptism fulflls matt 28 | Matt 28:19 | coffee | 56873 | ||
Exactly, so stop trying to be. Do you realise that the more you argue your point with someone on a theological meaning, you will acheive their steadfastness in their own interpretation? I somehow doubt this is your intention but it is what you are acheiving. Throwing scripture at a person your way will ensure and strengthen their interpretation no matter how right you may be, and even more importantly, it could convince them that you may have a lack of Christian love for them. Is that really what you want, or do you want to show God's love for them and encourage them down the right road? It isn't all about words and I know that you know this but your words do not show this. Your faith appears to be strong so do you think Jesus would beat RevC down with a stick or gently show him a different road and if RevC still disagrees what do you think Jesus would do? If you still believe your style of discussion is appropriate then by all means go ahead. I am not going to beat you down with a bullish attitude. I have witnessed too many times the destruction that follows. I am not going to through Scripture at you as if I am supposed to be better than you. If I believe someone has lost the path of love and I am not the person to show them a more loving way after trying, then I will go on my way and let God place the most appropriate person in their path. I know for sure that He will. I luv you Joe, coffee |
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6 | Jesus name baptism fulflls matt 28 | Matt 28:19 | Reformer Joe | 56958 | ||
You wrote: "Do you realise that the more you argue your point with someone on a theological meaning, you will acheive their steadfastness in their own interpretation? I somehow doubt this is your intention but it is what you are acheiving. Throwing scripture at a person your way will ensure and strengthen their interpretation no matter how right you may be, and even more importantly, it could convince them that you may have a lack of Christian love for them." So the Bible is not useful for correcting or rebuking then (2 Timothy 3:16, which has already been pointed out to you once)? With all due respect, I will believe the Bible on this one. It is not loving at all to lie and say that "he is where he needs to be." A person on their way to hell is never where s/he needs to be. But in an age where the world tells us, "Whatever you do, don't tell someone they are wrong," you fit in quite well with the world. As I said before, give me some Scripture to support the mushy-headedness you are advocating, or drop it. You are simply being unbiblical and flat-out wrong. But, hey, who needs the Bible? We have the world's version of what love is! --Joe! |
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7 | Jesus name baptism fulflls matt 28 | Matt 28:19 | coffee | 56983 | ||
I thank God that I am not learning my Christian walk with a non gentle person like yourself. You would surely turn me away from all Christians. It is better that we stay apart. I do not need your toxicity. | ||||||
8 | Jesus name baptism fulflls matt 28 | Matt 28:19 | Reformer Joe | 57068 | ||
"I thank God that I am not learning my Christian walk with a non gentle person like yourself. You would surely turn me away from all Christians. It is better that we stay apart. I do not need your toxicity." "Toxicity"? Well, I guess I hit the bullseye with my previous reference to secular psychology! If what you are posting here on this Forum is what you consider to be consistent with biblical Christianity, perhaps you do indeed need to seek out a different teacher. It is people like you who make me a hundred times more furious than RevC does. He is just wrong about Scripture. You, however, are not only posting unbiblical opinions; you are denying the sufficiency and efficacy of Scripture itself to do what God inspired it to do. And it is attitudes like that behind the anemia we see in evangelicalism today. --Joe! |
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