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1 | Is the Virgin Birth of Jesus a myth? | Matt 1:19 | Ray | 107928 | ||
Hi schimc, Thanks for your question. It reminds me that I wanted to go back to a discussion of Isaiah 7:15 and my post #106825. I believe that the passages in Isaiah 7 and 8 are a dual prophecy. Isaiah 7:14 talks about the virgin [Mary] who would be with child and bear a Son [sic]. That is in contrast to the young woman, the prophetess, Isaiah's wife who would give birth to a son [sic]. There is that contrast between the Boy Jesus and the boy who knows how to cry out 'My father'. Isaiah 8:4 The virgin birth is the sign that what was conceived in her was of the Holy Spirit. Matthew 1:18, "Now the birth of Jesus/Christ was as follows. When His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by the (Holy) Spirit. And Joseph her husband, being a righteous man, and not wanting to disgrace her, desired to put her away secretly. But when he considered this, behold an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for that which [NASB, l977] has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. And she will bear a Son..." Isaiah 7:11, "Ask a sign for yourself from the Lord/ your God; make it deep as Sheol or high as heaven." But Ahaz said, "I will not ask, nor will I test the Lord!" Then he said, "Listen now O house of David! Is it too slight a things for ou to try the patience of men, that you will try the patience of my (God) as well? Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a Son, and she will call His name Immanuel." The slashes and parentheses are mine to show how I would compare the passages. From the heart, Ray |
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2 | Why wasn't Jesus named Immanuel? | Matt 1:19 | schimc | 107944 | ||
Thanks for responding but I still have a question. Isaiah 7:14. As you know, this relates to King Ahaz regarding the fate of the two kings threatening Judah at that time and the fate of Judah itself. In the orginal hebrew, the verse says that a "young woman" will give brith, not a "virgin" which is an entirely different Hebrew word. It would seem that a case could be made that Mathew may have blundered the prophesy. Jesus triumphant entry into Jerusalem: In Matthew 21:1-7. In Mark, and Luke, Jesus is riding on a donkey. In Matthew, two animals are mentioned in three of the verses, so this cannot be explained away as a copying error. And Matthew has Jesus riding on both animals at the same time, for verse 7 literally says, "on them he sat.". Why does Matthew have Jesus riding on two donkeys at the same time? Because he could have misread Zechariah 9:9 which reads in part, "mounted on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey." It starts to get scary because the word translated "and" in this passage does not indicate another animal but is used in the sense of "even" for emphasis. It would not be a problem if Mark and Luke did not explicity use the singular donkey. Luke 19: 28-32. It starts to make a great case for the skeptic that Matthew was in error. I am in serious trouble trying to reconcile the problems with the virgin birth story. Any help will be greatly appreciated. by the grace of God Schimc |
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3 | Why wasn't Jesus named Immanuel? | Matt 1:19 | EdB | 107957 | ||
Schimc Puzzling isn't it? Not really, for one earnestly looking for an answer. May I suggest you pick up a copy of the book "When Critics Ask" by Dr Norman Geisler and Thomas Howe published by Victor Publishing. In this book these and many other favorite questions of the skeptics is addressed and answered. EdB |
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4 | Virgin Birth Myth | Matt 1:19 | schimc | 108004 | ||
Thank you very much EdB, I'm so very glad I came here for some answers. I've read the "Letters from a Skeptic" and, although it is a very good book, it overlooked the "Virgin Birth" story altogether, which further made me wonder about the story again. I will be sure and read the book you have suggested. Thank you |
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5 | Virgin Birth Myth | Matt 1:19 | EdB | 108013 | ||
The Hebrew word ‘almah’ is rightly translated virgin (Gen. 24:43; Prov 30:19; Song 1:3; 6:8), therefore your concern about Matthew making up the story is unfounded conjecture, that has no basis other than in the skeptics minds. The very fact Jesus Himself declared His father to be God should erase any doubt from a true believers mind. Along with that we have the testimony of Mary who she herself declare she was a virgin. Therefore for the skeptics to be right both Jesus and Mary would have to be liars. Since Jesus was God and Scripture clearly declares God can not lie Hebrews 6:18 so that by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have taken refuge would have strong encouragement to take hold of the hope set before us. ISAIAH 7:14 — Is this verse a prophecy about the virgin birth of Jesus Christ? PROBLEM: The prophecy of Isaiah 7:14 concerns the conception of a virgin and the bringing forth of a son whose name would be Immanuel. However, verse 16 seems to place the birth of the child before the invasion of the Assyrian armies and the fall of Samaria in 722 B.C., and Isaiah 8:3 seems to be a fulfillment of this prophecy. How can this be a prophecy about the virgin birth of Jesus? SOLUTION: The fulfillment of this prophecy may be two-fold. Because of the desperate situation which the people of Israel faced, God promised to give them a sign that would assure them that He would ultimately deliver His people out of bondage. Many scholars believe this sign came in two ways. First, it came as a sign of the physical deliverance of Israel from the bondage to which they were going under the invading Assyr-ians. Second, it came as a sign of the spiritual deliverance of all of God’s people from the spiritual bondage to Satan. The first aspect of the sign was fulfilled in the birth of Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz as recorded in Isaiah 8:3. The second aspect of the sign was fulfilled in the birth of Jesus Christ at Bethlehem as recorded in the Gospels. The word translated “virgin” (almah) refers to a young maiden who has never had sexual relations with a man. The wife of Isaiah who bore the son in fulfillment of the first aspect of the prophecy was a virgin until she conceived by Isaiah. However, according to Matthew 1:23-25, Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a virgin even when she conceived and gave birth to Jesus. The physical conception and birth of the son of Isaiah was a sign to Israel that God would deliver them from physical bondage to the Assvrians. But, the supernatural conception and birth of the Son of God was a sign to all of God’s people that He would deliver them from spiritual bondage to sin and death. Dr. Norman Geisler and Thomas A. Howe (1992, c1992) “When Critics Ask” (Is7:17) Victor Publishing Wheaton Ill. EdB |
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