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1 | forgiveness | Matt 18:1 | Hank | 191364 | ||
Parable - Ah, but the Bible does define divine forgiveness! See Jer. 31:34; Heb. 8:12; Heb. 10:17. --Hank | ||||||
2 | forgiveness | Matt 18:1 | Parable | 191372 | ||
Jer 31:34b "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more." Forgiveness here is associated with forgetting by the conjuction "and". So, Hank,are you suggesting that the definition of "to forgive" is "to forget"? I would not, because as I read this, not remembering is at best a consequence of forgiveness, not forgiveness itself. This is because the grammatical function of a conjunction is to associate two different things. Heb 8:12 and 10:17 are references to Jer 31:34, so these add nothing new to the discussion. |
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3 | forgiveness | Matt 18:1 | rabban | 191376 | ||
Hi If I may say a word with regard to Jeremiah 31.34b.? The Hebrews had a way of deliberately stating the same thing in two different ways. It is a feature of their poetry and their prose. (If you watch out for it you will see it again and again, especially in the Psalms). Thus we have here: I will forgive their wickedness I will remember their sin no more. It is saying the same thing in two different ways. In Hebrew 'and' actually has little force. It is simply a conjoining letter. But God does not say that He will forget their sins. He says that He will deliberately 'not remember them'. He will erase them from His mind. That is forgiveness. The Greek word for 'forgive' actually means 'to send away, disregard'. He will treat them as if they had never sinned. 'Forgiveness' (aphesis) means 1) release from bondage or imprisonment 2) forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty. (See Strong). So the concepts are all similar :-))) Best wishes |
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4 | forgiveness | Matt 18:1 | Parable | 191426 | ||
So you are saying that scripture teaches that to forgive is to "not remember"? I don't disagree, yet also note that this "not remembering" means much the same as what I proposed, does it not? |
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