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1 | forgiveness | Matt 18:1 | Hank | 191359 | ||
Steve, a tip of the hat to you on your post which is generously laced with Scripture references, a beacon of light in this thread which is dominated by opinion without Scripture. And opinion on theological matters bereft of scriptural reference or support is like a ship without a rudder. On a Forum such as this whose raison d'etre is to study God's word, it would be a most encouraging sign to see more of "Thus saith the Lord" and less of "Thus opineth I." How easily we all of us can get caught in the trap of our own cherished opinion and stumble along the way, losing sight of the eternal truth that it is God's word (not ours) that is a lamp to our feet and a light to our path (Cf. Ps. 119:105). --Hank | ||||||
2 | forgiveness | Matt 18:1 | Parable | 191361 | ||
Hank, In your first reply, you said "Are Christians duty bound to look the other way while a murderer, robber, rapist or terrrorist goes free and unpunished for his heinous crimes? That's the message I get from your post, and to substantiate it, friend, you will need to show wherein the Bible teaches Christians to behave in this manner." My post implies nothing of the kind, and we both know there are no scriptures to support such a silly view. One of the reasons I attempted to define forgiveness is because the bible does not, yet people in pain need to know in practical terms what it means. The bible describes instances in which forgiveness is granted, but it never actually tells us precisely what it is we are to do in order to forgive, or how we can know that we have actually done it. Other than your attempt to reduce my view to the absurd, what do you find so objectionable about my "definition" of forgiveness? Perhaps you can answer by providing one of your own, based on scripture of course, or better yet, list one from scripture, i.e. a DEFINITION per se, that I missed. I look forward to your clarification. |
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3 | forgiveness | Matt 18:1 | Hank | 191364 | ||
Parable - Ah, but the Bible does define divine forgiveness! See Jer. 31:34; Heb. 8:12; Heb. 10:17. --Hank | ||||||
4 | forgiveness | Matt 18:1 | Parable | 191372 | ||
Jer 31:34b "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more." Forgiveness here is associated with forgetting by the conjuction "and". So, Hank,are you suggesting that the definition of "to forgive" is "to forget"? I would not, because as I read this, not remembering is at best a consequence of forgiveness, not forgiveness itself. This is because the grammatical function of a conjunction is to associate two different things. Heb 8:12 and 10:17 are references to Jer 31:34, so these add nothing new to the discussion. |
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5 | forgiveness | Matt 18:1 | rabban | 191376 | ||
Hi If I may say a word with regard to Jeremiah 31.34b.? The Hebrews had a way of deliberately stating the same thing in two different ways. It is a feature of their poetry and their prose. (If you watch out for it you will see it again and again, especially in the Psalms). Thus we have here: I will forgive their wickedness I will remember their sin no more. It is saying the same thing in two different ways. In Hebrew 'and' actually has little force. It is simply a conjoining letter. But God does not say that He will forget their sins. He says that He will deliberately 'not remember them'. He will erase them from His mind. That is forgiveness. The Greek word for 'forgive' actually means 'to send away, disregard'. He will treat them as if they had never sinned. 'Forgiveness' (aphesis) means 1) release from bondage or imprisonment 2) forgiveness or pardon, of sins (letting them go as if they had never been committed), remission of the penalty. (See Strong). So the concepts are all similar :-))) Best wishes |
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6 | forgiveness | Matt 18:1 | Parable | 191426 | ||
So you are saying that scripture teaches that to forgive is to "not remember"? I don't disagree, yet also note that this "not remembering" means much the same as what I proposed, does it not? |
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